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  • nathanKent
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    Originally posted by Scartissue View Post
    There's a small chance that Infante will develop into more than a utility player. Not saying it's even likely, but there's at least a chance. Jones has reached his potential.

    Unlike many Cub fans, I didn't have a problem with Jones. He was an adequate outfielder, but expendible. He also occupies a spot the Cubs want to upgrade, and it will be easier to upgrade a corner outfield position than SS.
    Jones at max potential is still better than Infante, and we're about as unresolved as can be at CF right now. I see a lot of potential for us to be looking at this trade in May or June wishing we had a better CF rather than a clone of our starting SS.

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  • Scartissue
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    Originally posted by nathanKent View Post
    If we need another utility guy (which we don't, given that we already have DeRosa and Theriot), I'd rather see Patterson. This was not a great move.
    There's a small chance that Infante will develop into more than a utility player. Not saying it's even likely, but there's at least a chance. Jones has reached his potential.

    Unlike many Cub fans, I didn't have a problem with Jones. He was an adequate outfielder, but expendible. He also occupies a spot the Cubs want to upgrade, and it will be easier to upgrade a corner outfield position than SS.

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  • nathanKent
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    If we need another utility guy (which we don't, given that we already have DeRosa and Theriot), I'd rather see Patterson. This was not a great move.

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  • Ubiquitous
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    Ward if he has to play the field can play left or right along with first base.

    But yeah Ward isn't on the bench to field, he is on the bench as a bat.

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  • Scartissue
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    Originally posted by nathanKent View Post
    Jones is a versatile bench outfielder with better numbers. We've already got Theriot, Fontenot, and Ward. How many bench infielders are we shooting for here?
    Ward can only play 1st. Fontenot is good only for 2B. Infante plays SS, 2B and 3B, as well as outfield positions in a pinch. Theriot and Infante had similar stats offensively last year. Infante is better defensively, and is 2 years younger. His main knock is that he doesn't throw well, but has good range. If I'm going to bet who will be better between Theriot and Infante going forward, my money's on Infante.

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  • cpomeroy
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    Call me crazy, but didn't we try to load a line up full of utility infielders in 2006? I sure hope we got him for trade fodder later down the road.

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  • nathanKent
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    Originally posted by Scartissue View Post
    Infante was once a well-regarded prospect. Some say he was brought up too early, and after showing some promise in 2004, he regressed and the Tigers never really committed to him.

    He's at the age where he probably will never live up to his original expectations. However, he is at worst a versatile bench infielder. At best, he's a player with some upside that perhaps wasn't developed properly in Detroit, and possibly will improve if given consistent playing time. Not a bad return in my view.
    Jones is a versatile bench outfielder with better numbers. We've already got Theriot, Fontenot, and Ward. How many bench infielders are we shooting for here?

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  • Scartissue
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    Originally posted by nathanKent View Post
    Wow.... I just pulled his stats.... Can this guy actually play baseball? .253 AVG, .298 OBP, virtually nothing in the way of stolen bases or home runs, and a pedestrian fielding percentage. I'm far from being a Jones fan, but was that the absolute best we could do?
    Infante was once a well-regarded prospect. Some say he was brought up too early, and after showing some promise in 2004, he regressed and the Tigers never really committed to him.

    He's at the age where he probably will never live up to his original expectations. However, he is at worst a versatile bench infielder. At best, he's a player with some upside that perhaps wasn't developed properly in Detroit, and possibly will improve if given consistent playing time. Not a bad return in my view.
    Last edited by Scartissue; 11-12-2007, 06:01 PM.

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  • nathanKent
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    Originally posted by rockin500 View Post
    and you expect to get anything for him? his trade value is pretty much a bucket of balls considering his 5 million salary.
    I'll take the bucket of balls.

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  • rockin500
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    Originally posted by nathanKent View Post
    Wow.... I just pulled his stats.... Can this guy actually play baseball? .253 AVG, .298 OBP, virtually nothing in the way of stolen bases or home runs, and a pedestrian fielding percentage. I'm far from being a Jones fan, but was that the absolute best we could do?

    and you expect to get anything for him? his trade value is pretty much a bucket of balls considering his 5 million salary.

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  • nathanKent
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    Wow.... I just pulled his stats.... Can this guy actually play baseball? .253 AVG, .298 OBP, virtually nothing in the way of stolen bases or home runs, and a pedestrian fielding percentage. I'm far from being a Jones fan, but was that the absolute best we could do?

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  • Jeff Pico
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    PS, I like this move by Hendry, SS is in short-supply this offseason, but you can always find another outfielder.

    It also speaks volumes about the level of confidence the Cubs have in Ronny Cedeno. (i.e., not much). If I am not mistaken, Ronny is out of options, meaning he is either on our roster, or we have to cut him this year.

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  • Jeff Pico
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    What's the scouting report on Omar Infante? I can see he is basically the second coming of Ramon Martinez with the bat; I suppose that means he can field, right?

    Good glove, not much hit?

    Alot of strikeouts for a guy that doesn't have alot of power.

    He also appears to be arb-eligible, then a FA after '08.

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  • Ubiquitous
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    It is official now. Jones went to the Tigers for Omar.

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  • Captain Cold Nose
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    Jacques Jones? Not thhat this is a bad trade for the Detroit, but I'm not exactly excited about Jones as the new leftfielder.

    It seems like both teams would be getting rid of expendable players. No great shakes.

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