Ok I give is Roberts coming over or not?

[cpomeroy]

With Soriano moving down in the order and all the trade rumors for the last 4 months. What is it going to be?

[Cubsfan97]

I think this is a decisiont hat will decide Handrys fate with the Cubs in years to come. If he doesnt get Roberts and we have a dismal season, Hendry's head will be on the chopping block for not makign the move and possibly getting us to the WS. If he does get Roberts and we have a dismal season, he can turn around and say "What else did you want?" Hopefully he realizes it and he gets the trade done. However, there is also the possibility that the Orioles will flat out refuse to trade. I dont think that will happen if Hendry throws out the right players. The nice thing about our organization is we have a lto of young pitching, that we could afford to part with a couple of pitching prospects.

[Scartissue]

If anyone still gives a rat's behind, latest is that the deal is now off the table. I say halleluah! My guess is that it was the result of the O's overplaying their hand. They will learn soon enough that the Cubs offer was the best they'll get for Roberts. Hope this turns out the way things turned out when the Twins overplayed their hand, which is that they end up with a substantially worse offer. Even better, I hope the players we offered turn out great!

[Lipsander]

You know the old baseball saying, "the best trade is sometimes the trade that didn't happen".

[The Big C]

I don't want Brian Roberts, so I hope it doesn't happen. I didn't like the offers that I was seeing, I felt that we would have been giving up too much for not much of an upgrade over our current players.

[wrigleybum]

I don't want Brian Roberts, so I hope it doesn't happen. I didn't like the offers that I was seeing, I felt that we would have been giving up too much for not much of an upgrade over our current players.

Couldn't agree more. I like our young guys and want to keep them, and I'm happy with our team in general right now. If we have issues that come up during the season, there is always the deadline.

[Jeff Pico]

I was thinking about this, after the first month, the Roberts non-trade looks like we dodged a bullet on this one; right up there with our $90 mil. offer to Hampton that he almost took before the Rockies beat us out at the 11th hour (whew!)

Cedeno is playing well, Marshall is pitching well, and Gallagher (at least stat-wise), is looking great at AAA, and just about ML-Ready.

Meanwhile, Roberts is playing about as expected. But he would be taking At-bats away from who....DeRosa? No way DeRosa has 17 RBIs with Roberts on the roster. Plus we lose Cedeno's production.

If we had traded Cedeno, Marshall, Gallagher for Roberts (which I think we would have), we would be WORSE now, and even WORSE later when Gallgher was in the Majors, and Roberts hits free agency.

I didn't like the trade then, but I hate it even more now.

WHEW!

[Scartissue]

I was thinking about this, after the first month, the Roberts non-trade looks like we dodged a bullet on this one; right up there with our $90 mil. offer to Hampton that he almost took before the Rockies beat us out at the 11th hour (whew!)

Cedeno is playing well, Marshall is pitching well, and Gallagher (at least stat-wise), is looking great at AAA, and just about ML-Ready.

Meanwhile, Roberts is playing about as expected. But he would be taking At-bats away from who....DeRosa? No way DeRosa has 17 RBIs with Roberts on the roster. Plus we lose Cedeno's production.

If we had traded Cedeno, Marshall, Gallagher for Roberts (which I think we would have), we would be WORSE now, and even WORSE later when Gallgher was in the Majors, and Roberts hits free agency.

I didn't like the trade then, but I hate it even more now.

WHEW!

I was always lukewarm to the trade because (1) I thought we were giving up too much value, (2) the upgrade over DeRosa was not big and (3) Roberts has had mediocre seasons and is not a "sure thing" (by baseball standards). The only way the trade would have made any sense is if the players we would give up would be either glued to the bench or stuck in the farm, in which case, we may as well get value. Now that Cedeno looks like he'll have at least a decent chance of playing a lot, Gallagher is making additional progress and Marshall hasn't regressed, I'm even more convinced it was a bad deal.

Wonder how Angelos feels about things now. He's probably too dumb to realize even now that he should have taken the offer.

[Jeff Pico]

I was always lukewarm to the trade because (1) I thought we were giving up too much value, (2) the upgrade over DeRosa was not big and (3) Roberts has had mediocre seasons and is not a "sure thing" (by baseball standards). The only way the trade would have made any sense is if the players we would give up would be either glued to the bench or stuck in the farm, in which case, we may as well get value. Now that Cedeno looks like he'll have at least a decent chance of playing a lot, Gallagher is making additional progress and Marshall hasn't regressed, I'm even more convinced it was a bad deal.

Wonder how Angelos feels about things now. He's probably too dumb to realize even now that he should have taken the offer.

Couldn't agree more, and it's nothing against Roberts, it never was. I like him as a player. Just not at that price. Giving up Cedeno would really hurt, because we really wouldn't have a backup SS anywhere (I guess we have some good glove-no hit guy at AAA)

[Yoda]

You guys could've made the trade before the White Sox played the O's

[Scartissue]

You guys could've made the trade before the White Sox played the O's

The way Cedeno's been hitting, you shouldn't assume the Sox would have been better off if they made the trade.

[stejay]

I wouldn't mind if Roberts came. I think he has the sufficiant ability to be good for the Cubs.

[nathanKent]

I wouldn't mind if Roberts came. I think he has the sufficiant ability to be good for the Cubs.

At this point? In lieu of whom? Fontenot is the only middle infielder with an OBP below .390.

[stejay]

Fair point, but I still think that Roberts could do a good job for the Cubs

[nathanKent]

Fair point, but I still think that Roberts could do a good job for the Cubs

I just don't think you pull DeRosa, who is statistically doing better than Roberts right now and is a better defensive player to boot. And you can't plug him into Cedeno's or Theriot's spot because Roberts is about the worst SS ever. I'd rather see DeRosa or Fontenot at SS. Hell, I'd rather see Daryle Ward at SS.