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    Cubs have not won a world series in 102 years, longest without winning one.

    Questions is, what do the Cubs have to do to win a world series? Renovations, better players, bigger payroll: I don't know. But they have to make it happen eventually, this is ridiculous.

    Any other cub fan fed up with this?
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    Hahaha, I think every Cubs fan is fed up with this.

    What the Cubs need to do is make smarter moves on their players first and foremost. If Zambrano can pitch an entire season like he ended last season, then his contract isn't a terrible one, but since he can't seem to, it's been a terrible one. The Soriano contract has been killing us, and the Fukudome contract has been a little too much as well, although I wouldn't mind seeing the Cubs keep Fukudome for about a third as much as they've been paying him. Lee's contact is gone, and Ramirez now has an expiring contract, although I wouldn't mind seeing him come back for a reduced price as well.

    It's also going to take them making it into the postseason and getting hot at the right time. The majority of the time, that's the team that wins it. Sure, it takes a very good team, but it also takes a team getting hot at the right time.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mild Sauce View Post
      Hahaha, I think every Cubs fan is fed up with this.

      What the Cubs need to do is make smarter moves on their players first and foremost. If Zambrano can pitch an entire season like he ended last season, then his contract isn't a terrible one, but since he can't seem to, it's been a terrible one. The Soriano contract has been killing us, and the Fukudome contract has been a little too much as well, although I wouldn't mind seeing the Cubs keep Fukudome for about a third as much as they've been paying him. Lee's contact is gone, and Ramirez now has an expiring contract, although I wouldn't mind seeing him come back for a reduced price as well.

      It's also going to take them making it into the postseason and getting hot at the right time. The majority of the time, that's the team that wins it. Sure, it takes a very good team, but it also takes a team getting hot at the right time.
      You got it. Seems like their last world series appearance has been in 1945 and last play-off appearance (NLCS) in 2003, which was a miserable loss for them because they were 5 outs away from going to the world series when they were leading 3 games to 2. Regardless of that ass fan for interfering with that ball, it's no excuse for letting up 8 runs that inning and losting the NLDS to Florida.

      The question is: Why the hell are fans so loyal to them? Seems like Jays fans need to copy what Cubs fans have
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Roy Halladay View Post
        Cubs have not won a world series in 102 years, longest without winning one.

        Questions is, what do the Cubs have to do to win a world series? Renovations, better players, bigger payroll: I don't know. But they have to make it happen eventually, this is ridiculous.

        Any other cub fan fed up with this?
        Call me a hater, but love the idea of "one man out".

        Just damn glad it wasn't the Giants!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Roy Halladay View Post
          You got it. Seems like their last world series appearance has been in 1945 and last play-off appearance (NLCS) in 2003, which was a miserable loss for them because they were 5 outs away from going to the world series when they were leading 3 games to 2. Regardless of that ass fan for interfering with that ball, it's no excuse for letting up 8 runs that inning and losting the NLDS to Florida.

          The question is: Why the hell are fans so loyal to them? Seems like Jays fans need to copy what Cubs fans have
          The cubs also reached the playoffs in 2007 and 2008.
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          • #6
            They need to stop spending stupidly on free agents and build from the farm system. They have begun to do just that. Free agents are supposed to plug holes, not be someone you build a team around or give eternal contracts to.

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            • #7
              Here, here! I agree, totally.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Roy Halladay View Post
                You got it. Seems like their last world series appearance has been in 1945 and last play-off appearance (NLCS) in 2003, which was a miserable loss for them because they were 5 outs away from going to the world series when they were leading 3 games to 2. Regardless of that ass fan for interfering with that ball, it's no excuse for letting up 8 runs that inning and losting the NLDS to Florida.

                The question is: Why the hell are fans so loyal to them? Seems like Jays fans need to copy what Cubs fans have
                Most Cubs fans will blame Dusty Baker, Alex Gonzalez, Moises Alou, Derek Lee, and Mark Prior before they'll blame Bartman.

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                • #9
                  Well, not choking in the stretch would help. Seriously, They stood some great shots over the last ten years. (Their 2004 record was actually better than their 2003 record, but the didn't make the playoffs.) I don't know just what it is, but the Cubs have been badly outplayed in the moments when it really counted.
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                  • #10
                    It seems to be a legacy of non-confidence. It doesn't make any sense for a completely different set of ballplayers to underacheive as badly as their counterparts did 25 years earlier. The only thing they have in common is that they play their home games at Wrigley Field. But everyone coming to the Cubs knows the franchise history. They come on board knowing that the Cubbies are the "loveable losers" and hoping to be among the generation that finally brings a championship to the north side. But the broader issue has been the level of incompetence at the front office for most of the 102 year dry spell. Phillip Wrigley had some interesting ideas ... almost all of them bad ones. The Cubs currently and in the recent past have had real "baseball guys" serving as GM, but that is a fairly recent phenomenon. And the results have shown it too. They went through a huge dry spell where they didn't make post-season play at all. (Granted, it has been easier with the expansion to wildcard teams.) But the Cubs have managed to contend for a playoff spot and been in the hunt more often than not compared to their 1950's, 1960's, and 1970's counterparts. So, how can they push it over the top and get to the World Series ... and possibly even win one? Wish I knew. But I'm hooked for life and I know it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BaronSamedi View Post
                      Well, not choking in the stretch would help. Seriously, They stood some great shots over the last ten years. (Their 2004 record was actually better than their 2003 record, but the didn't make the playoffs.) I don't know just what it is, but the Cubs have been badly outplayed in the moments when it really counted.
                      I agree, over the last 10 years the team management has given them every chance to win it all, but the players have choked as a whole. They need to get players who instead of feeling the pressure of the losing steak instead feel the urgency to end it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mild Sauce View Post
                        Most Cubs fans will blame Dusty Baker, Alex Gonzalez, Moises Alou, Derek Lee, and Mark Prior before they'll blame Bartman.
                        Ah, I see. So the yelling, the profanities, the throwing of beer and hotdogs, the police protection, the DEATH THREATS, were...what? A joke?
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                        • #13
                          Do you think that was done by most fans or just a few dim-bulbs?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Iowanic View Post
                            Do you think that was done by most fans or just a few dim-bulbs?
                            Sensationalism sells.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Iowanic View Post
                              Do you think that was done by most fans or just a few dim-bulbs?
                              It was probably more than just a few. Otherwise he wouldn't have needed to be escorted out of Wrigley, or six police cars at his own home, or anything like that. And he wouldn't have had to pretty much vanish off the face of the Earth.
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