Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

102 years and what?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Seattle1
    replied
    Originally posted by The Uncoach View Post
    I'm all for tearing down Wrigley, playing home games somewhere else for 1 season and building a new park where the old Wrigley was. I like to spend other people's money. Seriously, I think that's where the cubs organization needs to start looking. They need better facilities for their players.....more conveniently located batting cages, etc.
    You should watch the Cubs episode of Under Cover Boss (CBS). You get to see some of the belly of the beast of Wrigley.

    Leave a comment:


  • The Uncoach
    replied
    I'm all for tearing down Wrigley, playing home games somewhere else for 1 season and building a new park where the old Wrigley was. I like to spend other people's money. Seriously, I think that's where the cubs organization needs to start looking. They need better facilities for their players.....more conveniently located batting cages, etc.

    Leave a comment:


  • Blue387
    replied
    As a Mets fan, I am sympathetic to the Cubs' plight - high spending team with poor record and albatross contracts. Heck, I'd root for the Cubbies in the World Series unless they beat my Mets to the pennant. I feel the Cubs are hurt by Wrigley Field. With a small ballpark and game tickets selling well due to compressed supply, there's no pressure to put a quality non-mediocre product on the field. Empty seats are noticeable and force pressure to perform - look at the 1979 Mets attracting less than a million fans to Shea. You could also throw in poor leadership and bad breaks such as Bartman. Perhaps a new stadium could be a good thing.

    Leave a comment:


  • CandlestickBum
    replied
    Originally posted by nightotter View Post
    I thought perhaps there was a vibe for all the old teams to finally get their chance at the Big Time. No such luck.
    Wierd, Giants aren't even on your personal radar. Most Giant fans in the 60-80's had an affinitiy with Cubs fans, in that we felt your pain, and believed we were in the same boat. That has waned a bit recently. But find it a bit odd they weren't on your radar. *shrug*

    We are he last of the great losers.
    Now that the Tribune has sold the team, maybe things will look up? Chicago baseball for some damn reason does seemed a bit jinxed, and that includes the WS in part too.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that mind you.

    In a odd, maybe perverse way, almost now wish they keep the "streak" alive. It's so old, so traditional, so, so Cubs, that it seems a shame to break.

    We'll see!

    Leave a comment:


  • Iowanic
    replied
    On Bartman....as a cub fan, I forgave him 10 minutes after it's happened, Laz. I'd love to take him to a game and hoist a few beers with him. I think if the cubs ever get to the world series, he should throw out the ball at one of the games.
    Life moves on, Laz. As cubs fans, we can't undo the past but we can try to make up for past mistakes.

    Leave a comment:


  • Mr. Laser Beam
    replied
    ^ What about him?

    Leave a comment:


  • Seattle1
    replied
    Lou Piniella

    Leave a comment:


  • Mr. Laser Beam
    replied
    ^ That's small consolation to an innocent fan whose life was ruined.

    So what do you think would happen if Bartman showed up at Wrigley - or anywhere in Chicago - now? Think the fans would forgive him? Or that he would forgive *them*?

    Leave a comment:


  • Mild Sauce
    replied
    Originally posted by Mr. Laser Beam View Post
    Ah, I see. So the yelling, the profanities, the throwing of beer and hotdogs, the police protection, the DEATH THREATS, were...what? A joke?
    That was all stuff that happened in the heat of the moment, it's not excusable, but after we've all had a chance to view the indicent (at the time I was angry at him too), most Cubs fans realize that it was just one foul ball, there was no guarantee that it was an out, if Bartman hadn't touched it someone else would have, and the people I mentioned were more to blame.

    Leave a comment:


  • nightotter
    replied
    I have been a Cub fan all my life. I was a teen in 1984. That was my first playoff as a Cub fan. I was heart broken when they lost. The subsequent playoff losses have hardened me. We (Cub fans) have talked the reason "why" they have not gone to the WS (and won it) to death (if you're old enough). When you take an honest look at the 2008 year, there is really nothing left to talk about. That team had it all, and could have won it all. We can talk endlessly about building a good farm system or at the other end of the spectrum, just "buying a world series", but ultimately it's what happens on the field. The 1984 and 2008 teams were World Series teams. The former underachieved, and the latter just bombed.

    I was happy when Boston finally won it after all those years. I thought perhaps there was a vibe for all the old teams to finally get their chance at the Big Time. No such luck. We are he last of the great losers. I will always be a Cub fan. Boston's win was only a symbolic win in my mind. I didn't FEEL it. I can't follow any other team because I will never feel it the way I would if the Cubs were to go to the WS. I'm ok with that.

    Leave a comment:


  • The Commissioner
    replied
    Originally posted by Mr. Laser Beam View Post
    It was probably more than just a few. Otherwise he wouldn't have needed to be escorted out of Wrigley, or six police cars at his own home, or anything like that. And he wouldn't have had to pretty much vanish off the face of the Earth.
    Out of the millions of Cubs fans out there, all it took was a few to require all that. Overall, Cubs fans may be passionate, but the overwhelming majority aren't thugs, goons or idiots. The hype surrounding that incident did as much unfair damage to the reputation of the good fans of Chicago as it did to Mr. Bartman. I felt sorry for both.

    As for what the Cubs need to do, I'm not sure. They will get there eventually. In the meantime, and I know this is easier said than done, you should relish your underdog status. It says a heck of a lot for the fans that they have grown up never having won a pennant or WS and yet are still so loyal to their ballclub. Once you do win it all, you're going to find a lot of bandwagon jumpers in your presence. They will not be as knowledgeable and classy as yourselves. Then you have to go and try to apologize to your friends who are fans of other teams that fan A and fan B "don't represent your typical Cubs fan. We're not all like that".

    Leave a comment:


  • Mr. Laser Beam
    replied
    Originally posted by Iowanic View Post
    Do you think that was done by most fans or just a few dim-bulbs?
    It was probably more than just a few. Otherwise he wouldn't have needed to be escorted out of Wrigley, or six police cars at his own home, or anything like that. And he wouldn't have had to pretty much vanish off the face of the Earth.
    Last edited by Mr. Laser Beam; 02-13-2011, 07:44 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • The Uncoach
    replied
    Originally posted by Iowanic View Post
    Do you think that was done by most fans or just a few dim-bulbs?
    Sensationalism sells.

    Leave a comment:


  • Iowanic
    replied
    Do you think that was done by most fans or just a few dim-bulbs?

    Leave a comment:


  • Mr. Laser Beam
    replied
    Originally posted by Mild Sauce View Post
    Most Cubs fans will blame Dusty Baker, Alex Gonzalez, Moises Alou, Derek Lee, and Mark Prior before they'll blame Bartman.
    Ah, I see. So the yelling, the profanities, the throwing of beer and hotdogs, the police protection, the DEATH THREATS, were...what? A joke?

    Leave a comment:

Ad Widget

Collapse
Working...
X