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    1906
    Team info
    Record: 116-36 (.763)
    PythW-L%: .755
    Finish: 1st of 8
    Playoffs: Lost World Series
    Runs: 704
    Runs against: 381

    Key players
    Frank Chance: .319/.419/.430, 103 R, 71 RBI, 57 SB, 7.3 WAR
    Mordecai Brown: 26-6, 1.04 ERA, 27 CG, 9 SHO, 277.1 IP, 144 SO, 0.934 WHIP, 7.2 WAR
    Harry Steinfeldt: .327/.395/.430, 81 R, 83 RBI, 29 SB, 7.0 WAR

    1909
    Team info
    Record: 104-49 (.680)
    PythW-L%: .709
    Finish: 2nd of 8
    Playoffs: DNQ
    Runs: 635
    Runs against: 390

    Key players
    Mordecai Brown: 27-9, 1.31 ERA, 32 CG, 8 SHO, 342.2 IP, 172 SO, 0.873 WHIP, 8.8 WAR
    Orval Overall: 20-11, 1.42 ERA, 23 CG, 9 SHO, 285.0 IP, 205 SO, 0.996 WHIP, 8.1 WAR
    Ed Reulbach: 19-10, 1.78 ERA, 23 CG, 6 SHO, 262.2 IP, 105 SO, 1.051 WHIP, 5.2 WAR

    1905
    Team info
    Record: 92-61 (.601)
    PythW-L%: .680
    Finish: 3rd of 8
    Playoffs: DNQ
    Runs: 667
    Runs against: 442

    Key players
    Ed Reulbach: 18-14, 1.42 ERA, 28 CG, 5 SHO, 291.2 IP, 152 SO, 0.963 WHIP, 7.3 WAR
    Frank Chance: .316/.450/.434, 92 R, 70 RBI, 38 SB, 5.5 WAR
    Bob Wicker: 13-6, 2.02 ERA, 17 CG, 4 SHO, 178.0 IP, 86 SO, 1.045 WHIP, 4.3 WAR

    1907
    Team info
    Record: 107-45 (.704)
    PythW-L%: .670
    Finish: 1st of 8
    Playoffs: Won World Series
    Runs: 574
    Runs against: 390

    Key players
    Orval Overall: 23-7, 1.68 ERA, 26 CG, 8 SHO, 268.1 IP, 141 SO, 1.006 WHIP, 6.0 WAR
    Johnny Evers: .250/.309/.313, 66 R, 55 RBI, 46 SB, 5.3 WAR
    Mordecai Brown: 20-6, 1.39 ERA, 20 CG, 6 SHO, 233.0 IP, 107 SO, 0.944 WHIP, 5.1 WAR

    2016
    Team info
    Record: 103-58 (.640)
    PythW-L%: .665
    Finish: 1st of 5
    Playoffs: Won World Series
    Runs: 808
    Runs against: 556

    Key players
    Kris Bryant: .292/.385/.554, 121 R, 39 HR, 102 RBI, 334 TB, 7.7 WAR
    Anthony Rizzo: .292/.385/.544, 94 R, 32 HR, 109 RBI, 317 TB, 5.7 WAR
    Jon Lester: 19-5, 2.44 ERA, 202.2 IP, 197 SO, 1.016 WHIP, 5.2 WAR

    1910
    Team info
    Record: 104-50 (.675)
    PythW-L%: .657
    Finish: 1st of 8
    Playoffs: Lost World Series
    Runs: 712
    Runs against: 499

    Key players
    King Cole: 20-4, 1.80 ERA, 21 CG, 4 SHO, 239.2 IP, 114 SO, 1.268 WHIP, 5.7 WAR
    Solly Hofman: .325/.406/.461, 83 R, 86 RBI, 29 SB, 5.3 WAR
    Mordecai Brown: 25-14, 1.86 ERA, 27 CG, 6 SHO, 295.1 IP, 143 SO, 1.084 WHIP, 4.7 WAR

    1935
    Team info
    Record: 100-54 (.649)
    PythW-L%: .655
    Finish: 1st of 8
    Playoffs: Lost World Series
    Runs: 847
    Runs against: 597

    Key players

    Billy Herman: .341/.383/.476, 113 R, 227 H, 57 2B, 83 RBI, 317 TB, 6.9 WAR
    Augie Galan: .314/.399/.467, 133 R, 203 H, 79 RBI, 22 SB, 302 TB, 5.1 WAR
    Gabby Hartnett: .344/.405/.545, 67 R, 91 RBI, 5.0 WAR

    1945
    Team info
    Record: 98-56 (.636)
    PythW-L%: .644
    Finish: 1st of 8
    Playoffs: Lost World Series
    Runs: 735
    Runs against: 532

    Key players
    Stan Hack: .323/.420/.405, 110 R, 193 H, 43 RBI, 12 SB, 242 TB, 6.0 WAR
    Phil Cavarretta: .355/.449/.500, 94 R, 177 H, 97 RBI, 249 TB, 6.0 WAR
    Claude Passeau: 17-9, 2.46 ERA, 19 CG, 5 SHO, 227.0 IP, 1.163 WHIP, 5.0 WAR

    1918
    Team info
    Record: 84-45 (.651)
    PythW-L%: .640
    Finish: 1st of 8
    Playoffs: Lost World Series
    Runs: 538
    Runs against: 393

    Key players
    Hippo Vaughn: 22-10, 1.74 ERA, 27 CG, 8 SHO, 290.1 IP, 148 SO, 1.006 WHIP, 8.3 WAR
    Lefty Tyler: 19-8, 2.00 ERA, 22 CG, 6 SHO, 269.1 IP, 1.058 WHIP, 7.1 WAR
    Charlie Hollocher: .316/.379/.397, 72 R, 38 RBI, 26 SB, 5.0 WAR

    1908
    Team info
    Record: 99-55 (.643)
    PythW-L%: .635
    Finish: 1st of 8
    Playoffs: Won World Series
    Runs: 624
    Runs against: 461

    Key players
    Mordecai Brown: 29-9, 1.47 ERA, 27 CG, 9 SHO, 312.1 IP, 123 SO, 0.842 WHIP, 8.1 WAR
    Joe Tinker: .266/.307/.391, 67 R, 68 RBI, 30 SB, 7.9 WAR
    Johnny Evers: .300/.402/.375, 83 R, 37 RBI, 36 SB, 5.6 WAR

    1929
    Team info
    Record: 98-54 (.645)
    PythW-L%: .616
    Finish: 1st of 8
    Playoffs: Lost World Series
    Runs: 982
    Runs against: 758

    Key players
    Rogers Hornsby: .380/.459/.679, 156 R, 229 H, 47 2B, 39 HR, 149 RBI, 409 TB, 10.4 WAR
    Hack Wilson: .345/.425/.618, 135 R, 198 H, 39 HR, 159 RBI, 355 TB, 6.1 WAR
    Kiki Cuyler: .360/.438/.532, 111 R, 183 H, 102 RBI, 43 SB, 271 TB, 4.9 WAR

    2008
    Team info
    Record: 97-64 (.602)
    PythW-L%: .609
    Finish: 1st of 6
    Playoffs: Lost NL Division Series
    Runs: 855
    Runs against: 671

    Key players
    Ryan Dempster: 17-6, 2.96 ERA, 206.2 IP, 187 SO, 1.210 WHIP, 6.9 WAR
    Carlos Zambrano: 14-6, 3.91 ERA, 188.2 IP, 130 SO, 1.293 WHIP, 5.7 WAR
    Ted Lilly: 17-9, 4.09 ERA, 204.2 IP, 184 SO, 1.226 WHIP, 4.1 WAR

    1936
    Team info
    Record: 87-67 (.565)
    PythW-L%: .601
    Finish: 2nd of 8
    Playoffs: DNQ
    Runs: 755
    Runs against: 603

    Key players
    Billy Herman: .334/.392/.470, 101 R, 211 H, 57 2B, 93 RBI, 297 TB, 6.8 WAR
    Frank Demaree: .350/.400/.496, 93 R, 212 H, 96 RBI, 300 TB, 5.1 WAR
    Larry French: 18-9, 3.39 ERA, 16 CG, 4 SHO, 252.1 IP, 1.252 WHIP, 5.1 WAR

    1911
    Team info
    Record: 92-62 (.597)
    PythW-L%: .600
    Finish: 2nd of 8
    Playoffs: DNQ
    Runs: 757
    Runs against: 607

    Key players
    Frank Schulte: .300/.384/.534, 105 R, 173 H, 21 3B, 21 HR, 107 RBI, 23 SB, 308 TB, 5.3 WAR
    Jimmy Sheckard: .276/.434/.388, 121 R, 149 H, 32 SB, 147 BB, 5.0 WAR
    Joe Tinker: .278/.327/.390, 61 R, 69 RBI, 30 SB, 4.4 WAR
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  • #2
    Although the 1906 Cubs had the most outrageous stats with 116 wins(.763 winning pct), along with outscoring their opponents by 85%, I'm going with the 1907 Cubs.

    The 1907 Cubs still won over 70% over their games with a gaudy 107-45 record. They still outscored their opponents by 47%. So granted, the 1906 team was 9 games better in the standings and had a far better run differential. But I want my team to win the World Series. And the 1907 squad destroyed Detroit in 5 games. The first game was a tie, followed by the Cubs sweeping the next 4 games. The Cubs outscored the Tigers 19-6 in those 5 games. The 1906 Cubs lost 4-2 and were outscored 22-18.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pheasant View Post
      Although the 1906 Cubs had the most outrageous stats with 116 wins(.763 winning pct), along with outscoring their opponents by 85%, I'm going with the 1907 Cubs.

      The 1907 Cubs still won over 70% over their games with a gaudy 107-45 record. They still outscored their opponents by 47%. So granted, the 1906 team was 9 games better in the standings and had a far better run differential. But I want my team to win the World Series. And the 1907 squad destroyed Detroit in 5 games. The first game was a tie, followed by the Cubs sweeping the next 4 games. The Cubs outscored the Tigers 19-6 in those 5 games. The 1906 Cubs lost 4-2 and were outscored 22-18.
      On paper the Cubs had easily the best pitching staff in history.

      The level that the staff attained from 1905 to 1907 and in 1909 has never been reached by any other staff. Lundgren, Overall, Pfiester, Reulbach, Taylor and Weimer were all star pitchers for a time during this run. The staff was awesome (ERA+ of 122) in 1902 also, with just Taylor and Lundgren from this bunch.
      YEAR ERA+
      1905 - 146
      1906 - 150
      1907 - 144
      1909 - 145

      Just to put this staff into historical perspective, next best teams of the past 110 years were not even close:
      1926 A's 139
      2015 Cardinals 134
      1942 Cardinals 134
      1910 A's 133
      2002 Braves 133
      1997 Braves 132
      1954 Indians 132

      Doesnt appear that any other dynasties hese were about 130 more than one season during the respective runs.

      The Bear Cubs were over 144 four times in 5 years!!

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      • #4
        I'm leaning toward 2016 myself. As dominate as the 1900s decade was, there is much better parity now than in the early days of the league. And the team managed to make it through a playoff format that is now three rounds as opposed to only one.
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