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    SAN FRANCISCO -- Manny Ramirez's trademark dreadlocks are still an issue.
    Manager Joe Torre said he again asked his new left fielder when he would get a haircut and was told it would be next week.

    "He asked, 'How short?' I said I'd get back to him," said Torre, enforcing Dodgers club policy.

    Torre raised the subject in his first meeting with Ramirez after last week's trade. Torre never gave an ultimatum, but asked how important wearing the dreadlocks was. Ramirez said it was more important for him to fit in with his new club and not be given preferential treatment.

    "To me, it's a sensitive issue for a player that's been doing something for a long time," Torre said. "As a player, I'd be turned off if I was told, now that you're here, do this and this and this."

    Torre made light of suggestions that he could be taking on the role of Delilah to Ramirez's Samson if the haircut is followed by a loss of power production for the slugger, who became the first Dodger to hit four home runs in his first six games with the club.

    "We'll have to see the results. If that happens, I'm out of town," Torre said. "It's a long homestand; I could be taking a beating. I never imagined when I started managing 25 years ago I'd be talking about this. Some old-timers would be spinning in their graves over this."

    The Dodgers will soon be offering licensed Manny bandanas with attached dreadlocks.
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  • #2
    In fact, I have to wonder why it matters so much to Torre that Ramirez lose the hair. Jealousy that he can grow it? Wind resistance?

    More seriously, while I think Ramirez looks silly, I don't see where it affects his ability to play the game. Perhaps Torre could use this reminder. When one of his most illustrious predecessors with the Yankees, Joe McCarthy, went to the Red Sox, the big discussion was that he always had required the Yankees to wear jacket and tie on the road, and Ted Williams could have been president of the World Anti-Necktie Club. Soon after joining the Red Sox, McCarthy was seen wearing a sports shirt and sports jacket--no tie. When asked, he said if a manager can't get along with a .400 hitter, something is wrong with the manager. Well, if Ramirez wants to wear long hair, what is the blessed difference?

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    • #3
      Torre already made Joe Beimel cut his hair. He's going to look like a douche and a hypocrite to some if he gives preferential treatment to superstar Manny. If he lets Manny keep his hair, Beimel should go to Torre and demand his hair back.

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      • #4
        I think Manny would be smart to cut his hair. By joining the Dodgers he has a chance for a "fresh start" and make a good impression with the Dodger players, management, and the fans. If he is perceived as going along with the the team rules and cuts his hair he will perceived as a "team player". Besides Manny hit just fine when he had short hair with the Indians and in his early years with the Red Sox.
        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Michael Green View Post
          In fact, I have to wonder why it matters so much to Torre that Ramirez lose the hair. Jealousy that he can grow it? Wind resistance?
          Don't the Dodgers have a team policy about hair? Or is it just Torre? I know when Johnny Damon went from Boston to the Yankees he had to lose the Jesus look and cut his head and facial hair. I think the Dodgers have a similar policy, but not positive about that.
          Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours. - Yogi Berra

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          • #6
            I think the Dodgers did have a policy, something along the lines of short hair and no beards, but mustaches were ok if neat. It wasn't as bad as the Reds. I remember somebody claiming that Sparky Anderson actually thought the Big Red Machine won games because the Reds were clean-cut. Well ....

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            • #7
              I doubt Manny will cut his hair. From recent remarks it looks like he doesn't care if he is with the Dodgers next season or not. If he isn't going to be around, why get a haircut?

              I also doubt Torre has the kahones to make him do it either, especially while he is still ripping the ball. All the years Joe was in New York (with either team) he ducked controversy. He'll try to do the same thing with Manny's hair, or any other issue that arises surrounding him.

              My bet is the if Manny actually wants to stay in LA, both he and the hair will outlast Joe.

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              • #8
                Manny has no intention of being a Dodger next year. He's a Boras client. He who offers the most gold wins.

                This policy of moderate hair length works fine when dealing with your own players, but when you import a long-time veteran from outside your organization things can get dicey.
                Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
                  Manny has no intention of being a Dodger next year. He's a Boras client. He who offers the most gold wins.
                  And rumor has it that Manny/Boras will be seeking a four year $100 million contract. Earth to Manny/Boras.

                  This policy of moderate hair length works fine when dealing with your own players, but when you import a long-time veteran from outside your organization things can get dicey.
                  That's a good point. I never understood these team rules about long hair and facial hair. This is baseball, not the Marine Corps.
                  Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                    And rumor has it that Manny/Boras will be seeking a four year $100 million contract. Earth to Manny/Boras.

                    That's a good point. I never understood these team rules about long hair and facial hair. This is baseball, not the Marine Corps.
                    Steinbrenner needs to hear that.

                    He took a caveman Johnny Damon and a porn star Giambi and turned them into boring figures.

                    I say let Manny keep the dreds but he's already gone and cut some of 'em off.

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                    • #11
                      Honestly I hate clubhouse rules like that, but if you're going to have them, don't enforce them with a velvet fist. Joe's handled the whole situation very awkwardly. They're in the playoff hunt and he spends every post-game talking about fashion.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Williamsburg2599 View Post
                        Honestly I hate clubhouse rules like that, but if you're going to have them, don't enforce them with a velvet fist. Joe's handled the whole situation very awkwardly. They're in the playoff hunt and he spends every post-game talking about fashion.
                        Maybe when he was in NY he did that- probably because The Boss has *his* rules- but here he's not been the one to harp on the hair...the media has been guilty of that.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Blue Crew View Post
                          Maybe when he was in NY he did that- probably because The Boss has *his* rules- but here he's not been the one to harp on the hair...the media has been guilty of that.
                          In a way yes, but he shouldn't be talking about it. He should just tell them it's a clubhouse issue and it's none of the media's business like most managers would, not give them a weekly hair update. He's dragged this thing out way longer then it ever should of been too.

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                          • #14
                            The simplest thing for the Dodgers to have done was to say they will make an exception for Manny for this year, but if he comes back next year he has to cut them.

                            Well I guess that is not the simplest thing they could have done. They could just get rid of the hair length rule.
                            Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
                              The simplest thing for the Dodgers to have done was to say they will make an exception for Manny for this year, but if he comes back next year he has to cut them.
                              Or the opposite as an incentive.

                              Tell manny he has to cut the hair now, BUT if he stays he can grow his hair to whatever length he wants.

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