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    I really like Callaway so far. Upbeat, positive, etc.

    With that said - does anyone think (besides me) that he is a little too over the top positive?

    Maybe being a cynical Met fan I am always in "show me" mode, and lets not talk about it....lets do it. I think I am that way regardless but more so with the Mets.

    For instance some of his quotes just seem .... I don't know.

    "It is very evident we are prepared in every way to go out there and do something special,"

    He got that already and everyone isn't there yet?
    "This is the best group of arms and stuff I've ever seen from top to bottom."

    Wasn't he just in Cleveland with Kluber, Carrasco, Salazar, Miller, Shaw...etc? Just seems a little presumptuous after a day or so....even two weeks or so.
    This is probably my favorite:
    "They look to their left, and they look to their right and they know they can contend. We have the players that can do it. It has become very evident in my time here at Port St. Luice... it is very evident that we are prepared in every way to go out there and do something special. If we do not do things, it's going to be on me. The front office has gotten us the players, the coaching staff is the best coaching staff in the big leagues."

    Ok cmon dude. Seriously? Don't you think you should actually at least play a game or two first?

    I get that the Met fan is looking for some positivity, but I believe it really has to come on the field before the words. Words are just words. Right now this rhetoric, although I appreciate it -- just seems a little silly to me.

    I wont even get into his initial comments:
    "We're going to care more about the players than anyone ever has before," the 42-year-old Callaway said, wearing his new No. 36 Mets jersey. "We're going to know that they are human beings and individuals; and this is going to be a group that feels that every day they come into the clubhouse. Our main concern is to show them that we know this game is difficult and we care about you as a player, a human being and about your personal life.



    Lets just hope this group stays healthy and plays well -- the love fest can follow, but lets play well on the field first.
    Last edited by Paulypal; 02-14-2018, 06:46 AM.

  • #2
    Surprising that a Met manager thread is so ignored, especially since the guy isn't going to be around long. I suppose this forum is a bit dead, not constantly humming like it was years ago.

    At a minimum, this is Mickey's last year. The only question is does he survive the year. I'm not a manager critic. Good players make good managers, great players make great managers, (hellooooo Joe Torre!). The only exception to this rule on the MLB level was Billy Martin. He made even the lowliest teams win. Bobby Valentine had a special talent too. On the flip side was bumblefluck Art Howe. How the heck did he ever get multiple jobs?

    Mickey is pretty much a big nothing. He's just another guy in the dugout, no presence, no character. At the pregame and postgame he says a lot of words. I can't see anyone ever hating him or loving him. he's just a guy named Mickey with the title of manager.

    When he goes, I do NOT want: Joe Girardi (too Yankee), some anonymous Rojas guy who is a "quality coach" (puh-leeze!), Dusty Baker (too old), Jim Riggleman (never even was a has-been).

    I'm on the fence about Buck Showalter after lusting for him for 2 decades. Maybe he comes in at 63 y/o and goes on a HOF run like Casey Stengel or Joe Torre. But this is the Mets, so more likely he wins nothing and gets fired in 3 years, continuing his run of never winning. But if he did get the job, I could see myself getting excited.

    Who else is there? Only one. The man who should have replaced Collins. The man who players who have played for him RAVE about, as both an inspirational winner and the greatest baseball mind of his generation. That man is the greatest MLB caliber manager without a job: Wally Backman.

    It is time.

    I'm willing to wait for the offseason for it to happen. But make no mistake, it needs to happen.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SaltyParker View Post
      Surprising that a Met manager thread is so ignored, especially since the guy isn't going to be around long. I suppose this forum is a bit dead, not constantly humming like it was years ago.

      At a minimum, this is Mickey's last year. The only question is does he survive the year. I'm not a manager critic. Good players make good managers, great players make great managers, (hellooooo Joe Torre!). The only exception to this rule on the MLB level was Billy Martin. He made even the lowliest teams win. Bobby Valentine had a special talent too. On the flip side was bumblefluck Art Howe. How the heck did he ever get multiple jobs?

      Mickey is pretty much a big nothing. He's just another guy in the dugout, no presence, no character. At the pregame and postgame he says a lot of words. I can't see anyone ever hating him or loving him. he's just a guy named Mickey with the title of manager.

      When he goes, I do NOT want: Joe Girardi (too Yankee), some anonymous Rojas guy who is a "quality coach" (puh-leeze!), Dusty Baker (too old), Jim Riggleman (never even was a has-been).

      I'm on the fence about Buck Showalter after lusting for him for 2 decades. Maybe he comes in at 63 y/o and goes on a HOF run like Casey Stengel or Joe Torre. But this is the Mets, so more likely he wins nothing and gets fired in 3 years, continuing his run of never winning. But if he did get the job, I could see myself getting excited.

      Who else is there? Only one. The man who should have replaced Collins. The man who players who have played for him RAVE about, as both an inspirational winner and the greatest baseball mind of his generation. That man is the greatest MLB caliber manager without a job: Wally Backman.

      It is time.

      I'm willing to wait for the offseason for it to happen. But make no mistake, it needs to happen.
      Agreed on your assessment of managers. Joe Torre didnt know more about baseball in the Bronx than he did in Queens. The roster difference told the story.

      On the other hand........there is no such thing as "too Yankee". Met fans feel that way about the Yankees which translates as "too much winning". I will take Girardi in a second.

      It wont happen though because Girardi will not be a yes man for the GM aka Joey Van Slick or the less than human ownership. So you get your wish no of no Girardi but for the wrong reasons.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Paulypal View Post

        Agreed on your assessment of managers. Joe Torre didnt know more about baseball in the Bronx than he did in Queens. The roster difference told the story.

        On the other hand........there is no such thing as "too Yankee". Met fans feel that way about the Yankees which translates as "too much winning". I will take Girardi in a second.

        It wont happen though because Girardi will not be a yes man for the GM aka Joey Van Slick or the less than human ownership. So you get your wish no of no Girardi but for the wrong reasons.
        We'll get along fine if you refrain from "translating" what I may or may not mean, or stating opinion as fact.

        I wrote "too Yankee" because there is such a thing - for me. Maybe not to you, but you're you and you aren't other people. In fact, there's also such a thing, to me, as "too Cardinal", another team I don't like which is why I would have puked if Ken Oberkfel had been named manager a few years ago.

        I won't get my wish of Girardi managing for the "wrong" reason. The right of "wrong" is your opinion. An opinion isn't a fact.

        If we can establish these rudimentary ground rules, happiness will abound. Thanks in advance.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SaltyParker View Post

          We'll get along fine if you refrain from "translating" what I may or may not mean, or stating opinion as fact.

          I wrote "too Yankee" because there is such a thing - for me. Maybe not to you, but you're you and you aren't other people. In fact, there's also such a thing, to me, as "too Cardinal", another team I don't like which is why I would have puked if Ken Oberkfel had been named manager a few years ago.

          I won't get my wish of Girardi managing for the "wrong" reason. The right of "wrong" is your opinion. An opinion isn't a fact.

          If we can establish these rudimentary ground rules, happiness will abound. Thanks in advance.
          Well "too much" Yankee from a Met fan is only left open to translation. So I translated into what I thought it was.

          So please explain what "too Yankee" or "too Cardinal" is. Oddly the two of the most successful franchises in baseball.

          Getting along is nice and I hope so, but it may or may not happen. It can vary day to day.

          I do think we have a dislike for the ownership group in common.
          Last edited by Paulypal; 05-24-2019, 10:33 AM.

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