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  • What do you guys think of Angel Pagan?

    The kid is an offensive animal.

    Thoughts?
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  • #2
    Well, since he drove in the winning run in the bottom of the 12th inning last night, I'm pretty high on him right about now.
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    What's THAT guy doing?
    - one of the YES Network broadcasters, after the camera cut to me doing the thumbs-down after Todd Frazier's home run

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gary Dunaier View Post
      Well, since he drove in the winning run in the bottom of the 12th inning last night, I'm pretty high on him right about now.
      Ha ha! Well, I have to agree with you on that one!
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      • #4
        Anyone remember Pat Tabler? Decent ballplayer, played with the Mets for a year. His nickname, brought from the AL, was "Mr. Clutch" because he always seemed to be performing in high pressure situations. Unfortunately, the Mets lost Tabler to free agency. Well, I hereby dub Angel Pagan the New Mr. Clutch.
        "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
        -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

        Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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        • #5
          Well, so far you have to love him. Good offense, good defense. If he continues to play like that, he could start in LF next year. Another year in the minors for F-Mart would be ok with me.
          sorry for some grammar mistakes

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          • #6
            Wow. I am really amazed. I've been a life-long Mets fan and have been reading many of the posts in this part of the message board for over a year now. I need to say this to get it off my chest. Some of the Mets fans on this board are so typical of New York fans. If the player isn't a first ballot Hall of Famer, then the guy's a bum. Angel Pagan is a good example. When the Mets made the trade for him, a fair number of people on this board stated what a terrible pick up it was and that he wasn't worth his weight. Now, everyone is signing his praises (appropriately so). In a month, when he has slowed down some and isn't producing like he has over the past 2 weeks, he'll be a bum again and it will be a terrible pick up.

            Me, personally, I like the pick up. I have from the start. He's obviously a much different player from when the Mets first signed him as a 19-year-old. Over the course of the season, I think that he will be an asset to the Mets. I'm happy for the start that he's had and also for Ryan Church, another player that people stated was a terrible pick up. He's also done well the first two weeks.

            Sorry for the rant.

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            • #7
              I had no problem with the pick up. Little risk there to getting an athletic player who's only 26. When Alou comes back they have a capable guy to give all the OF some rest. Pagan and Chavez make for some nice OF depth.

              Really all the guys the negative types were ripping into or predicting failure from during the offseason are performing well so far.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dmbfan View Post
                Wow. I am really amazed. I've been a life-long Mets fan and have been reading many of the posts in this part of the message board for over a year now. I need to say this to get it off my chest. Some of the Mets fans on this board are so typical of New York fans. If the player isn't a first ballot Hall of Famer, then the guy's a bum. Angel Pagan is a good example. When the Mets made the trade for him, a fair number of people on this board stated what a terrible pick up it was and that he wasn't worth his weight. Now, everyone is signing his praises (appropriately so). In a month, when he has slowed down some and isn't producing like he has over the past 2 weeks, he'll be a bum again and it will be a terrible pick up.

                Me, personally, I like the pick up. I have from the start. He's obviously a much different player from when the Mets first signed him as a 19-year-old. Over the course of the season, I think that he will be an asset to the Mets. I'm happy for the start that he's had and also for Ryan Church, another player that people stated was a terrible pick up. He's also done well the first two weeks.

                Sorry for the rant.
                To limit this to NY fans is silly. Fans, in general, are like that. Also, most people didn't dislike Church, they disliked getting rid of Milledge. I was for the deal, as I have no use for Milledge, but the reaction was not, generally, anti-Church, it was people not wanting to give up Milledge.

                And nobody was anti-Pagan either, to be honest, as we gave up zero to get him. Nobody thought he'd be a superstar, but I never heard a single person talk about the deal being bad...it was indifference because it seemed like a small deal. NObody was railing about picking up Angel Pagan. It was an afterthought.

                He could be changing that.

                GH

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                • #9
                  My initial post on the reacquisition of Angel Pagan, which two posters had gone crazy after...

                  "Why are people calling this bad? Corey Coles was 26 years old and in AA ball, slumping badly at season's end. His stock since last season has slid almost into oblivion. Ryan Meyers is a young relief arm who isn't even close to making the Majors. Or even being on the depth chart (guys drafted last year like Rustich, Kunz, Clyne, and Carr are projected higher than he was). How this move is 'asinine' or 'awful' is totally and completely beyond me. Think of him as this year's Ben Johnson, only much cheaper, with more upside, and with more speed (Gomez has to develop and what Omar realized was just how much he was being rushed last year)."

                  I for one was not at all like the people dmbfan was describing...
                  "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
                  -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

                  Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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                  • #10
                    Once pitchers figure him out it won't be to good. Who did they get from the Cubs for him?

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                    • #11
                      "Who did they get from the Cubs for him?"

                      If you read my above post, you would see that we gave up two nothing ballplayers (Corey Coles, whose ability to work walks and get singles has significantly declined and Ryan Meyers, a nowhere reliever) to get him.

                      "Once pitchers figure him out it won't be to good."

                      FWIW, people said this ad nauseum about Endy Chavez...
                      "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
                      -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

                      Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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                      • #12
                        Yeah, sometimes it's the hitter who finally figures out the pitchers.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NJMetfan4life View Post
                          Once pitchers figure him out it won't be to good. Who did they get from the Cubs for him?
                          Technical foul! Do you think, with his demonstrated drive, he would not get help with one of the coaches to fight out of any slump?:disbelief:

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by metssincekindergarten View Post
                            Technical foul! Do you think, with his demonstrated drive, he would not get help with one of the coaches to fight out of any slump?:disbelief:
                            Well...you and Dalkowski win. Maybe if he uses Ty Cobb's Theory he can break out.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by NJMetfan4life View Post
                              Once pitchers figure him out it won't be to good.
                              GREAT outlook dude. :disbelief:
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