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  • Mongoose
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    Introduction to Mets first radio broadcast. No actual Ralph, though he's introduced, but Lindsay Nelson, Howard Cosell and Gil Hodges:



    Interesting. I'd heard Cosell had something to do with the Mets' original broadcast team, but this is the first recorded evidence I've come across.

    Did he ever call any games?

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  • Mongoose
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    Here's Ralph with Ron Darling on April 12th 1988's Kiner's Korner.



    Ralph knows how to conduct a post game interview. Only one major Kinerism at 9:20. I miss this show.

    This one just went up. Get it while you can.

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  • Mongoose
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    Originally posted by alpineinc View Post
    Recent upload found on YT, a full Kiner's Korner from July 7, 1984. Mets rout Reds 14-4, Mookie going 4-4 is the guest.



    Thank you for posting that. Ralph was in good form. He even said "Mitsubishi" correctly every time. Looking at Mookie here I'm reminded he's aged very well. He's effervescent as usual. The highlights were great, too. It was great to see Gooden's fastball when it still had rise. That 1984 team remains a favorite. One forgets Hubie Brooks, Ed Lynch, Mike Fitzgerald, Rusty Staub etc. played with the 1986 guys. All in all Cashen mostly kept the right guys and dealt the right guys. I still liked almost everyone on that team, though.

    Here's more Ralph. I think SNY just posted this:



    Ralph lends some interesting insight here on the position of catching, how to tell is a catcher is calling a good game, stealing signs, etc. There are Ralph's usual elements of humor and candor. As an added bonus he also calls Joe Mauer "Joe Meyer", plus he mentions Randy Hundley played during the era of the 154 game schedule which, of course, was never so.

    In other words, vintage Ralph.
    Last edited by Mongoose; 02-24-2014, 11:46 AM.

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  • alpineinc
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    Recent upload found on YT, a full Kiner's Korner from July 7, 1984. Mets rout Reds 14-4, Mookie going 4-4 is the guest.

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  • RUKen
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    Once, during Old Timer's Day, there was a rain delay. Ralph Kiner invited Joe DiMaggio and Hank Greenberg into the studio, and the three of them talked baseball for about an hour. We didn't have a VCR, but I quickly got my tape recorder and caught most of the interview on cassette tape!

    The bad news is--I have no idea what happened to that tape.

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  • Steven Gallanter
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    Originally posted by alpineinc View Post
    Apparently old Kiner's Korners are scarcer than hen's teeth. The Seaver one on YT is the most prominent I've seen. Hopefully more will show up soon.
    My blog has an appreciation of Ralph Kiner.

    http://stevegallanter.wordpress.com

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  • Mister B.
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    Originally posted by dstoffa View Post
    Well, late 70's fits the time that betamax players began entering the home... As I wrote above, the VCR didn't become common place until the 80's. Odds are we won't see vintage episodes on home tapes.

    Doubt you'll see many from before that time.

    So the question becomes:

    1. How many people taped the game / show?
    2. How many people still have the tapes?
    3. How many many have been thrown in the trash because said tapes were "obsolete" or nobody had the equipment to play said tapes?

    There is also the estate factor... some kids may not have known what their folks had...


    Cheers!
    -Doug
    There's also an issue of deteriorating quality. Got my first Betamax in 1981; had many hundreds of tapes from the 80s that I converted to DVD a few years ago. It was heartbreaking that my 1986 World Series tapes (I used Sony Beta Gold Ultra High Grade - supposedly the best of the best) had deteriorated so badly as to become vitrtually unwatchable. Conversely the "less important" stuff taped on TDK, Maxell and Fuji held up just fine. Who knew.

    So, Hill Street Blues and Wiseguy look good, but all my Mets tapes turned to snow.

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  • dstoffa
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    Originally posted by Mongoose View Post
    There have to be Kiner's Korners around that people taped from the late 1970s on. Go on Youtube and you'll find anything and everything. I believe for the longest time MLB was active in chasing Kiner's Korner off Youtube. That's why there's almost nothing there today. The Dykstra's mom episode had been on Youtube and was taken down. There must be more.
    Well, late 70's fits the time that betamax players began entering the home... As I wrote above, the VCR didn't become common place until the 80's. Odds are we won't see vintage episodes on home tapes.

    Doubt you'll see many from before that time.

    So the question becomes:

    1. How many people taped the game / show?
    2. How many people still have the tapes?
    3. How many many have been thrown in the trash because said tapes were "obsolete" or nobody had the equipment to play said tapes?

    There is also the estate factor... some kids may not have known what their folks had...


    Cheers!
    -Doug

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  • Mongoose
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    Originally posted by dstoffa View Post
    While later episodes are more likely to exist, I think for vintage episodes, we are SOL.

    Video Tape was expensive, and many programs were taped over. In addition, the home VCR didn't become a common household appliance until the 80's.

    Heck, the reason MSG shows "The Vault" is because even they don't have archives of every game. They find a stray tape or film here or there, or maybe a fan sends something in... The only reason they had a copy of the Rangers 1979 Stanley Cup Semi-Final Game 6 upset of the Isles is because a fan, who had a VCR, actually taped the game.

    Sad, but true. Goes for much television back then...

    They weren't deemed worth saving.

    Like stadium seats and old school Topps baseball cards...


    Cheers!
    -Doug
    There have to be Kiner's Korners around that people taped from the late 1970s on. Go on Youtube and you'll find anything and everything. I believe for the longest time MLB was active in chasing Kiner's Korner off Youtube. That's why there's almost nothing there today. The Dykstra's mom episode had been on Youtube and was taken down. There must be more.

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  • dstoffa
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    Originally posted by Mongoose View Post
    Do you think you can find any old Kiner's Korners and post them?
    Originally posted by alpineinc View Post
    Apparently old Kiner's Korners are scarcer than hen's teeth. The Seaver one on YT is the most prominent I've seen. Hopefully more will show up soon.
    While later episodes are more likely to exist, I think for vintage episodes, we are SOL.

    Video Tape was expensive, and many programs were taped over. In addition, the home VCR didn't become a common household appliance until the 80's.

    Heck, the reason MSG shows "The Vault" is because even they don't have archives of every game. They find a stray tape or film here or there, or maybe a fan sends something in... The only reason they had a copy of the Rangers 1979 Stanley Cup Semi-Final Game 6 upset of the Isles is because a fan, who had a VCR, actually taped the game.

    Sad, but true. Goes for much television back then...

    They weren't deemed worth saving.

    Like stadium seats and old school Topps baseball cards...


    Cheers!
    -Doug

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  • alpineinc
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    Apparently old Kiner's Korners are scarcer than hen's teeth. The Seaver one on YT is the most prominent I've seen. Hopefully more will show up soon.

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  • Mongoose
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    Originally posted by alpineinc View Post
    I've now uploaded the FULL VERSION of the Kiner's Korner theme, which I'd bet almost no one has heard to the end lol. Enjoy.

    Wonderful. Thank you.

    Here's Vin Scully sharing some thoughts about Ralph:



    Do you think you can find any old Kiner's Korners and post them?

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  • alpineinc
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    I've now uploaded the FULL VERSION of the Kiner's Korner theme, which I'd bet almost no one has heard to the end lol. Enjoy.

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  • Paulypal
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    Originally posted by Mister B. View Post
    A few memories of my own:

    In the early years, I'm pretty sure there was a regular pre-game KK, not just post-game. At least for home games. Sometimes a between-games-of-a-DH show, too.

    I remember tuning in late, seeing visiting team players on the show, and being bummed because it meant the Mets had lost.

    I remember Seaver's shrill laughter. And Agee's unintelligible mumbling, followed immediately by Cleon Jones' "What Tommy's tryinta say is..."

    Around 3AM during the 25-inning game with St. Louis in 1974, there was a shot of Ralph asleep in the studio, where he'd been for about five hours.

    Full-speed replays (no slo-mo then), with the capital letters 'VIDEOTAPE REPLAY" on the bottom.

    Pete Rose making the show all about him, taking over the narrative of the replays "didja see me ..."

    After the last commercial, Ralph going solo giving the scores of the other games, while the camera panned down a low-tech board showing the scores.

    Followed by a reminder about tomorrow's game, and the reassuring, welcoming "if you can't make it to the ballpark, we'll see you right back out there."

    For it's time, it was all good stuff. Really good stuff.
    Mister B - that was some good stuff right there. Many of us share the same memories.

    The one that most resonated with me was tuning in late and seeing Greg Luzinski (or someone of that ilk) on the show and knowing they lost.

    All low tech for sure. Its funny how now we cant live without high tech, but how the low tech days are nothing but great memories.

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  • Mister B.
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    Originally posted by Mongoose View Post

    The best one was when he forgot his name during the intro to Kiner's Korner. He didn't just call himself "Ralph Korner" (which I'd seen). He said "Good evening, welcome to Kiner's Korner. I'm..." and then stood there with a deer in the headlights look saying "uh... uh" trying to remember his name for a few seconds. I think they went to a commercial. It's been so long and, of course, I only saw it once.

    Don't know about the rest of you but during Kiner's Korner I'd be sitting relaxed after a Mets game and such things weren't a complete surprise as they were happening. Ralph didn't seem to be astonished either. Sometimes he seemed a little uneasy as things got tangled and mangled, but the show continued to flow. It had to. It was live. For us the incredible lapses were part of the show.

    In some ways it was like an educational show on baseball with a bit of Soupy Sales or Uncle Floyd thrown in. Did he ever win some kind of Emmy? He should have. Kiner's Korner towers over the studio productions of ESPN and all the rest. I think whoever runs TV must have passed a law against unassuming Lo-Fi fun. Just try to find any.
    A few memories of my own:

    In the early years, I'm pretty sure there was a regular pre-game KK, not just post-game. At least for home games. Sometimes a between-games-of-a-DH show, too.

    I remember tuning in late, seeing visiting team players on the show, and being bummed because it meant the Mets had lost.

    I remember Seaver's shrill laughter. And Agee's unintelligible mumbling, followed immediately by Cleon Jones' "What Tommy's tryinta say is..."

    Around 3AM during the 25-inning game with St. Louis in 1974, there was a shot of Ralph asleep in the studio, where he'd been for about five hours.

    Full-speed replays (no slo-mo then), with the capital letters 'VIDEOTAPE REPLAY" on the bottom.

    Pete Rose making the show all about him, taking over the narrative of the replays "didja see me ..."

    After the last commercial, Ralph going solo giving the scores of the other games, while the camera panned down a low-tech board showing the scores.

    Followed by a reminder about tomorrow's game, and the reassuring, welcoming "if you can't make it to the ballpark, we'll see you right back out there."

    For it's time, it was all good stuff. Really good stuff.

    Leave a comment:

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