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  • Our Mets Hall of Fame, election 22

    Please limit your ballot to a maximum of 15 names.

    This is the twenty-second election for Our Mets Hall of Fame. Last time, we elected nobody.

    For the original rules and specifications for this Hall of Fame, see:

    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=83894

    New, additional rules:

    When voting, consider the player’s Mets career only. If you choose to vote “none of the above,” you must explain your decision or your vote will not count.

    It is not necessary that you explain your other votes, however it is still encouraged that you do so.

    --

    New on the ballot:

    Mike Bishop
    Mark Bradley
    Ron Darling
    Mike Fitzgerald
    Danny Heep
    Keith Hernandez
    Clint Hurdle
    Jose Oquendo
    Junior Ortiz
    Darryl Strawberry
    Mike Torrez

    Dropped from the last ballot:

    Bruce Bochy
    Carlos Diaz
    Brent Gaff
    Rick Ownbey
    Gary Rajsich
    Ronn Reynolds
    Rick Sweet
    Rusty Tillman

    Code:
    Mets Hall of Fame:
    
    Player:          Times on ballot:          Induction percentage:           When inducted:
    
    Tommie Agee             2                           80.00                   8th election 
    Wally Backman           2                           85.71                   20th election
    Donn Clendenon          14                          85.71                   20th election
    Jerry Grote             1                           100.00                  5th election
    Bud Harrelson           1                           100.00                  4th election
    Gil Hodges              1                           77.78                   1st election
    Ron Hunt                11                          77.78                   12th election
    Cleon Jones             1                           100.00                  2nd election
    Dave Kingman            2                           81.25                   15th election
    Jerry Koosman           1                           100.00                  6th election
    Ed Kranepool            1                           88.89                   1st election
    Skip Lockwood           7                           85.71                   20th election
    Jon Matlack             1                           81.82                   10th election
    Lee Mazzilli            1                           75.00                   15th election
    Tug McGraw              1                           90.00                   4th election
    Felix Millan            1                           77.78                   12th election
    Jesse Orosco            2                           77.78                   19th election
    Tom Seaver              1                           91.67                   6th election
    Rusty Staub             1                           85.71                   11th election
    John Stearns            3                           83.33                   16th election
    Ron Swoboda             10                          75.00                   13th election
    Mookie Wilson           1                           88.89                   19th election
    
    
    Manager:          Times on ballot:          Induction percentage:           When inducted:
    
    Gil Hodges               1                           90.00                   1st Mgr. election
    Davey Johnson            1                           100.00                  1st Mgr. election
    Bobby Valentine          2                           100.00                  2nd Mgr. election

    Code:
    Holdovers:
    
    Player:          Times on ballot:          Previous percentage:          High percentage: 
    
    Neil Allen              4                       12.50                        28.57 
    Bob Bailor              2                       12.50                        14.29
    Hubie Brooks            3                       50.00                        57.14
    George Foster           1                       12.50                        12.50
    Ron Gardenhire          2                       25.00                        14.29
    Brian Giles             2                       12.50                        14.29
    Ed Glynn                4                       25.00                        28.57
    Tom Gorman              1                       12.50                        12.50
    Terry Leach             2                       25.00                        28.57
    Willie Mays             11                      50.00                        62.50
    John Milner             12                      62.50                        57.14
    Doug Sisk               1                       12.50                        12.50
    Craig Swan              10                      62.50                        71.43
    Walt Terrell            1                       12.50                        12.50
    Tom Veryzer             1                       12.50                        12.50
    Joel Youngblood         6                       37.50                        57.14
    
    Holdovers dropped:
    
    Last year of eligibility:
    
    none
    Number of voters in each election:

    Election 1: 18
    Election 2: 8
    Election 3: 9
    Election 4: 10
    Election 5: 9
    Election 6: 12
    Election 7: 10
    Election 8: 10
    Election 9: 10
    Election 10: 11
    Election 11: 14
    Election 12: 9
    Election 13: 8
    Election 14: 15
    Election 15: 16
    Election 16: 12
    Election 17: 14
    Election 18: 18
    Election 19: 9 (5 DQed)
    Election 20: 7
    Election 21: 8

    Manager election 1: 10
    Manager election 2: 11
    Manager election 3: 8
    62
    Neil Allen
    3.23%
    2
    Bob Bailor
    1.61%
    1
    Mike Bishop
    0.00%
    0
    Mike Bradley
    0.00%
    0
    Hubie Brooks
    6.45%
    4
    Ron Darling
    11.29%
    7
    Mike Fitzgerald
    0.00%
    0
    George Foster
    3.23%
    2
    Ron Gardenhire
    1.61%
    1
    Brian Giles
    0.00%
    0
    Ed Glynn
    3.23%
    2
    Tom Gorman
    0.00%
    0
    Danny Heep
    0.00%
    0
    Keith Hernandez
    16.13%
    10
    Clint Hurdle
    0.00%
    0
    Terry Leach
    3.23%
    2
    Willie Mays
    6.45%
    4
    John Milner
    9.68%
    6
    Jose Oquendo
    1.61%
    1
    Junior Ortiz
    0.00%
    0
    Doug Sisk
    3.23%
    2
    Darryl Strawberry
    14.52%
    9
    Craig Swan
    9.68%
    6
    Walt Terrell
    0.00%
    0
    Mike Torrez
    0.00%
    0
    Tom Veryzer
    1.61%
    1
    Joel Youngblood
    3.23%
    2
    None of the above
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.


  • #2
    Brooks
    Darling
    Hernandez:bowdown:
    Milner
    Strawberry

    we're coming to the land of the (I hope) no brainers.

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    • #3
      Darling
      Hernandez
      Mays
      Milner (You guys convinced me)
      Strawberry
      Swan
      "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
      -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

      Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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      • #4
        Most of my choices are either obvious, or have already been explained.

        I would like to note that allowing Jose Oquendo to go was a horrible mistake. Here was a very young kid full of hustle and enthusiasm who could really field, and who later developed into a decent hitter after he was with the Cardinals. I believe he had yo-yoed between the Mets and Tidewater so much that he was out of options and the Mets had to let him go, but... He was better than Gardenhire and Santana.

        Letting him go was almost the only bad move of the Cashen era, which ended in November of 1986 when Fred Wilpon purchased a 50% share in the team and began involving himself in front office decisions.


        "The Fightin' Met With Two Heads" - Mike Tyson/Ray Knight!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mongoose View Post
          Most of my choices are either obvious, or have already been explained.

          I would like to note that allowing Jose Oquendo to go was a horrible mistake. Here was a very young kid full of hustle and enthusiasm who could really field, and who later developed into a decent hitter after he was with the Cardinals. I believe he had yo-yoed between the Mets and Tidewater so much that he was out of options and the Mets had to let him go, but... He was better than Gardenhire and Santana.

          Letting him go was almost the only bad move of the Cashen era, which ended in November of 1986 when Fred Wilpon purchased a 50% share in the team and began involving himself in front office decisions.
          What decisions? Thanks in advance.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ReyesOfHope View Post
            What decisions? Thanks in advance.
            Wilpon has always had an obsession with his players conducting themselves in a "moral" fashion. Google "Wilpon" and "image conscious" and you get a ton of hits, most of which discuss Wilpon's obsession with his organization looking "clean cut" and "family friendly".

            The Mets slide as an organization in the 1980s began in November of 1986 when Wilpon usurped a 50% share from Doubleday. I watched with horror as the greatest team I'd ever seen was broken up. Starting with the Mitchell/McReynolds trade he proceeded to get rid of any and every player he considered to be a carouser and bad moral influence. And what was the result? There were probably more miscreants on the 1993 squad than on the 1986 squad. The only difference was that they were a bunch of mercenary underachieving losers with no fire and no soul.

            Some people have tried to pin the blame for breaking up that team on Frank Cashen, but it just doesn't add up.

            Cashen distinguished himself as a genius in Baltimore and in New York up until 1986. Then, all of a sudden, he became an imbecile - but not just an ordinary imbecile; an imbecile that had a freakish obsession with the nocturnal activities of his players.

            Here was a guy who had gone out and acquired Keith Hernandez at a time unsavory rumors of drug use were swirling around him and a lot of other teams didn't seem interested in touching him. Keith never was a moral paragon, but such considerations never seemed to be a factor in Cashen's decision making. Cashen always made the correct decision regardless...

            Until the day Wilpon became a full partner.

            We then learned through the press of a new determination on the part of the Mets front office to rid the team of all carousers and wild men. A series of trades then occurred which turned the deepest, most talented team many of us have ever seen into an surly unwatchable collection of garbage.

            Or as Joe McDonald puts it:

            http://www.nysportscene.com/?p=327

            Remember back in the 1980s and even the early 1990s, it was Fred Wilpon who forced the purge of less desirable players from the club. After the 1986 World Series win, potential trouble maker Kevin Mitchell was shipped to San Diego for the pure vanilla Kevin McReynolds. A few years later the known partiers like Lenny Dykstra, Wally Backman, and even Darryl Strawberry were shown the door.

            Fred Wilpon ruined that team.


            "The Fightin' Met With Two Heads" - Mike Tyson/Ray Knight!

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            • #7
              My continued support for:

              - Hubie Brooks
              - Ed Glynn
              - Willie Mays
              - John Milner
              - Craig Swan
              Explanations can be looked up.

              NEW:

              Ron Darling
              Keith Hernandez
              Darryl Strawberry
              Do they really need an explanation ? What needs to be explained is why 2 voters left Darling off. Are you serious ? Absolutely absurd, rediculous and shameful.

              Swan is so close.
              Let me ask all who have left him off - how many Mets have won ERA titles ?
              Just to be clear:
              Craig Swan was a GREAT pitcher.
              Craig Swan is an All Time Great Met pitcher.
              The OMHOF is incomplete without him.

              Milner is even closer.
              100% for Mex but the other hard playing, pennant winning 1bman with a bat full of clutch hits doesn't cut it ?
              Not in my book.
              I watched him play, he belongs.
              Let's put him in with Mex this round !
              Last edited by whoisonit; 05-20-2009, 07:30 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
                Brooks
                Darling
                Hernandez:bowdown:
                Milner
                Strawberry

                we're coming to the land of the (I hope) no brainers.
                You would think, but it appears the 'no brain' part lies with some voters.

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                • #9
                  Man, it feels like 100 years since I've been here. ...Probably has.

                  Glad to see Clendenon and Lockwood made it.

                  This ballot's easy for me:

                  Ron Darling
                  Keith Hernandez
                  Willie Mays (still supporting him)
                  John Milner (still supporting him)
                  Darryl Strawberry
                  Craig Swan (what's holding this up?)
                  Put it in the books.

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                  • #10
                    There's a little less than a day to vote on this.

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                    • #11
                      Welcome aboard Keith Hernandez and Darryl Strawberry. Ron Darling fell just short of induction.

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