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  • Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee election #2, vote 2

    Welcome to Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee election #2, vote 2. Members of the Veteran's Committee are allowed to vote in this election.

    The members of the Veteran's Committee are:

    Cowtipper
    Dalkowski110
    Mongoose
    whoisonit
    milladrive
    PVNICK
    JerseeJerry55
    Joe Rigatoni - eligible to start voting in the third VC election, which will run concurrently to regular election 30.

    We have whittled the initial list down a little, and now we are onto the final ballot, which is as follows:

    Bob Apodaca
    Richie Ashburn
    Ed Charles
    Choo Choo Coleman
    Roger Craig
    Doug Flynn
    Gary Gentry
    Steve Henderson
    Ron Hodges
    Al Jackson
    Felix Mantilla
    John Milner
    Joe Pignatano
    Nolan Ryan
    Frank Thomas
    Marv Throneberry

    You may select as many players from this list to be elected into the Mets Hall of Fame as you want. A player must receive at least 75% of the vote to be elected to the Mets Hall of Fame.

    This vote will run for seven days (until July 6) or until all of the VC members have voted, whichever comes first. However, at least four out of the seven VC members must vote for the voting to come to a close - so, if only three out of the seven members have voted by the end of day seven, voting will continue until at least one more member has voted.

    Would you like to be a member of Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee? To become one, you must have participated in the regular OMHOF balloting for 10 consecutive ballots you must have voted in 15 ballots total with consecutive votes not necessary to be an OMHOFVC voting member. You will be eligible to start voting in the next VC election, which will be concurrent to election 30 (and, overlap with election 31 by three days). *All current members are grandfathered into the VC and do not have to fit these qualifications.
    Last edited by Cowtipper; 06-29-2009, 10:56 PM.

  • #2
    My votes:

    Bob Apodaca
    Ron Hodges
    John Milner
    Marv Throneberry

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    • #3
      Doug Flynn
      Ron Hodges
      Al Jackson
      John Milner
      Nolan Ryan
      Marv Throneberry
      Put it in the books.

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      • #4
        John Milner
        Frank Thomas, who was actually good as opposed to being comic relief in '62 and had the best offensive season in franchise history until some competent players like Agee, Cleon, Clendenon, Staub and Milner came along.

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        • #5
          John Milner
          "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
          -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

          Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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          • #6
            Bob Apodaca
            Ed Charles
            Choo Choo Coleman
            Roger Craig
            Doug Flynn
            Steve Henderson
            Ron Hodges
            Al Jackson
            John Milner
            Marv Throneberry


            "The Fightin' Met With Two Heads" - Mike Tyson/Ray Knight!

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            • #7
              John Milner
              Marv Throneberry

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              • #8
                Just curious how your process is going to work. How long will someone remain on the VC ballot? If someone doesn't make the cut after their first VC vote will their eligibility expire? Or will they be allowed to hang around until voters can be convinced to elect them?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MSUlaxer27 View Post
                  Just curious how your process is going to work. How long will someone remain on the VC ballot? If someone doesn't make the cut after their first VC vote will their eligibility expire? Or will they be allowed to hang around until voters can be convinced to elect them?
                  From election one, vote two:

                  If a player is voted off during the initial ballot in two consecutive VC elections, they will no longer be eligible for the VC...And, if a player makes it past the first cut but doesn't get more than 50% of the vote in three consecutive VC elections, he too will be no longer eligible for the VC.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
                    You may select as many players from this list to be elected into the Mets Hall of Fame as you want. A player must receive at least 75% of the vote to be elected to the Mets Hall of Fame.

                    "A person can be in 15 election cycles before he is no longer eligible to be in the Mets Hall of Fame."
                    -- Cowtipper

                    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=83894

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                    • #11
                      Voting ends in a day.

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                      • #12
                        Six VC members voted, so five votes were needed for election to the OMHOF. We elected one player, John Milner, who received 100% of the vote.

                        Code:
                        Name		Votes		Percentage
                        				
                        John Milner		6		100.00%
                        Marv Throneberry	4		66.67%
                        Ron Hodges		3		50.00%
                        Bob Apodaca		2		33.33%
                        Doug Flynn		2		33.33%
                        Al Jackson		2		33.33%
                        Ed Charles		1		16.67%
                        Choo Choo Coleman	1		16.67%
                        Roger Craig		1		16.67%
                        Steve Henderson		1		16.67%
                        Nolan Ryan		1		16.67%
                        Frank Thomas		1		16.67%
                        Richie Ashburn		0		0.00%
                        Gary Gentry		0		0.00%
                        Felix Mantilla		0		0.00%
                        Joe Pignatano		0		0.00%
                        If the following players do not get more than 50% in the 2nd round of the next VC election (running concurrently to election 30), they will no longer be eligible for VC voting, per one of the elimination rules. So if you want to continue to see them on the VC ballot, convince your fellow VC members as to why they belong in the Hall.

                        Bob Apodaca
                        Doug Flynn
                        Al Jackson
                        Ed Charles
                        Choo Choo Coleman
                        Roger Craig
                        Steve Henderson
                        Nolan Ryan
                        Frank Thomas
                        Richie Ashburn
                        Gary Gentry
                        Felix Mantilla
                        Joe Pignatano

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
                          Six VC members voted, so five votes were needed for election to the OMHOF. We elected one player, John Milner, who received 100% of the vote.

                          Code:
                          Name		Votes		Percentage
                          				
                          John Milner		6		100.00%
                          Marv Throneberry	4		66.67%
                          Ron Hodges		3		50.00%
                          Bob Apodaca		2		33.33%
                          Doug Flynn		2		33.33%
                          Al Jackson		2		33.33%
                          Ed Charles		1		16.67%
                          Choo Choo Coleman	1		16.67%
                          Roger Craig		1		16.67%
                          Steve Henderson		1		16.67%
                          Nolan Ryan		1		16.67%
                          Frank Thomas		1		16.67%
                          Richie Ashburn		0		0.00%
                          Gary Gentry		0		0.00%
                          Felix Mantilla		0		0.00%
                          Joe Pignatano		0		0.00%
                          If the following players do not get more than 50% in the 2nd round of the next VC election (running concurrently to election 30), they will no longer be eligible for VC voting, per one of the elimination rules. So if you want to continue to see them on the VC ballot, convince your fellow VC members as to why they belong in the Hall.

                          Bob Apodaca
                          Doug Flynn
                          Al Jackson
                          Ed Charles
                          Choo Choo Coleman
                          Roger Craig
                          Steve Henderson
                          Nolan Ryan
                          Frank Thomas
                          Richie Ashburn
                          Gary Gentry
                          Felix Mantilla
                          Joe Pignatano
                          Can non-VC members express an opinion? Perhaps someone has a solid argument, and you may not want to exclude a convincing voice.

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                          • #14
                            Everybody has their cross to bear. Throneberry is mine.

                            He received more votes from the VC than he did in ANY of the 15 regular elections in which he stood as a candidate. His highest induction percentage in regular elections was around 37% (in an election cycle where only 8 voted). I could see if he was consistently receiving 50% or more of the regular induction vote, but he never reached that barrier even once! (Which at least Milner can say). Of the total 134 some odd total votes cast for induction during Throneberries 15 times on the ballot he received a grand total of 34 for an average total percentage of .254, which at least was higher than his lifetime and Mets batting averages.

                            I think it's pretty obvious that the (regular?, plebes?) people have spoken and do not consider Marv Throneberry a "Met" Hall of Famer. You want to put him in the Fisherville, Tennessee Hall of Fame for the difficult task of making the major leagues and having a seven year career, I'm all for it. But he doesn't belong in any Hall of Fame set up to honor career Major League Baseball or New York Met "accomplishments".

                            In the end, the presence of the one individual who voted for him in every election will almost assuredly guarantee his inclusion in a pantheon of Met "greats" for the sole reason that he (due to beer commercials and Ringmaster Stengel) is the most remembered clown from the collection of cast-offs, has beens (yes, some of them had achieved greatness...long past by 1962) and never wases making up one of the worst professional baseball teams ever assembled.

                            Don't let Throneberry be this Hall of Fame's Bill Mazeroski.

                            I have nothing personal against him, I know he is no longer with us. I'm sure he was good person and teammate. Gave kids autographs, didn't get drunk and beat his wife. All around nice guy. Just not a Met All Time Great!

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                            • #15
                              I second the sentiments of MSUlaxer27 with regards to Throneberry.
                              "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
                              -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

                              Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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