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    John Heyman is reporting that Mets ownership has told both Jerry and Omar that their jobs are not in jeopardy and that they will be back next season.

  • #2
    While I generally am puzzled by moves by Manuel, this season has been littered with injuries. Injuries are not the managers fault.

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    • #3
      Manuel is a HORRIBLE game manager....but he's going to get a pass this season because of the black plague of injuries.

      Hopefully we have enough talent next season (that's healthy) where his damage will be minimal
      "all the mets road wins against the dodgers this year have occured at Dodger Stadium"---Ralph Kiner

      "Blind people came to the park just to listen to him pitch"---Reggie Jackson, talking about Tom Seaver

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      • #4
        I'm not exactly sure we can trust what John Heyman reports. :ooo:


        Originally posted by m8644 View Post
        Manuel is a HORRIBLE game manager....
        What makes you say that?
        Last edited by milladrive; 07-22-2009, 06:30 AM. Reason: typo correction
        Put it in the books.

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        • #5
          I don't know that Mets fans should consider this good news. I can't say I am terribly impressed by Minaya's ability to assemble a team. Particularly when you consider the substantial budget he gets to work with.
          Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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          • #6
            Jerry Manuel (l.) and general manager Omar Minaya may have gotten votes of confidence two weeks ago, but Minaya may not be untouchable.

            WASHINGTON - Omar Minaya and Jerry Manuel received votes of confidence from chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon two weeks ago, the GM said Monday night, after joining the Mets in Washington to watch a 6-2 victory against the Nationals.
            Still, sources have indicated to the Daily News that Wilpon's view of Minaya clearly has shifted. A source recently told The News that Minaya's three-year extension, which runs through 2012 and is believed to be annually worth $1.1 million, would not be an impediment to jettisoning the GM after the season.

            Minaya said that in the conversation with Wilpon, the Mets' COO said, "'I want you to be our general manager. I want Jerry to be our manager.' That type of stuff. That was said a couple of weeks ago to me and to Jerry.

            "Like I told Jeff, I said, 'Hey, Jeff. Thank you for that hope. I don't think about those things and I know Jerry (doesn't), either.' We do the best job we can, and we understand when teams lose, people are going to come up with those things. People are going to say those things, especially in big markets."

            Regardless, there's clearly dysfunction in the organization. One recent example: The scouting community has been abuzz with an account of Mets VP Tony Bernazard going into a profanity-laced tirade directed at the organization's manager of baseball operations at Citi Field, which left witnesses in the section behind home plate aghast. According to two sources, scouts had settled in a row behind the plate during a recent game. Bernazard arrived and found a Diamondbacks scout sitting in the seat he wanted. When Bernazard's underling suggested that the Mets VP wait until the end of the half-inning to change the seating arrangement in order to minimize the disruption, Bernazard went ballistic in a rant against his Ivy League-educated deputy.

            The Mets' spinners did a full-court press yesterday. SI.com reported that the Mets had rejected a proposed deal of Blue Jays' ace Roy Halladay for Fernando Martinez, Bobby Parnell, Ruben Tejada and Jon Niese. If that proposal were accurate, Toronto GM J.P. Ricciardi and Minaya would be the laughingstocks of baseball - one for proposing it, the other for rejecting it.

            Minaya's arrival in Washington coincided with the news that Fernando Nieve had landed on the DL with a torn right quadriceps muscle that will sideline him at least six weeks, which prompted the Mets to promote former Rockies outfielder Cory Sullivan from Triple-A Buffalo.

            At least the Mets (44-48) could peer across the field at the other dugout and feel better about their problems. The Nationals, who fired Manny Acta as manager during the All-Star break, dropped to a major league worst 26-66 with last night's loss.

            Livan Hernandez (6-5), who snapped a four-game losing streak, entered last night having allowed a combined 15 runs on 21 hits and eight walks in seven innings in his previous two starts. But the veteran righthander limited Washington to two runs - on a double by Josh Bard - and five hits in seven innings. Hernandez has held the Nats to three runs in 23 innings in three starts against them this season, all victories. He is 3-5 with a 5.95 ERA against the rest of the majors.

            "I know that everyone is talking, but I don't listen to that," Hernandez said about rumblings that his rotation spot might have been in jeopardy.

            By the time Bard hit the two-run double in the fourth, the Mets had surged to a 5-0 lead against J.D. Martin in his major-league debut. Daniel Murphy and Jeff Francoeur hit RBI doubles in the first inning, and Angel Pagan, Luis Castillo and Murphy stroked consecutive run-scoring singles with two out an inning later.

            Minaya insisted that the season is not lost, although team officials privately insist that they have no intention of trading for a rental player. Instead, any deal would have to be equivalent to the recent acquisition of Francoeur, who is under the team's control through 2011.

            Francoeur homered in the ninth inning last night, giving the Mets a four-run cushion. It was Francoeur's first homer as a Met and the club's first since last Sunday, when Brian Schneider and Fernando Tatis hit back-to-back blasts at Citi Field.

            Francoeur said he has felt more relaxed since leaving Atlanta. He indicated he's been working with hitting coach Howard Johnson on shortening his swing and widening his stance, and was heartened that the homer came on a pitch that he estimated at 93-94 mph.

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            • #7
              If Omar doesn't get fired after this season, then I don't know if he ever will. The minor leagues are in shambles and our major league team is a 140 million dollar mess. I had no idea James Dolan owned the Mets.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by majorleads View Post
                If Omar doesn't get fired after this season, then I don't know if he ever will. The minor leagues are in shambles and our major league team is a 140 million dollar mess. I had no idea James Dolan owned the Mets.
                I seem to recall when times were better for the club the impression given was that Jeff the son of Fred was the involved Wilpon so you can still make the analogy.

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                • #9
                  I don't think Manuel can be entirely blamed for this year. The DL killed the team this year, and despite some questionable lineup decisions he's done the best he can with what he has.

                  Omar, on the other hand, can definitely be blamed for this year. With all the FA talent available, Omar could only muster a bad deal for Ollie Perez? Yes, Putz & KRod were great signings, but he did nothing to improve an offense that was tenuous at best last year. I saw Adam Dunn hit probably the longest home run in the history of Citi Field this year. Wonder what he could have done as a full-time Met.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JohnCandelariaFanClub View Post
                    Yes, Putz & KRod were great signings, but he did nothing to improve an offense that was tenuous at best last year.
                    Dude get your facts straight the Mets were #2 in the entire NL tied with the Phillies and only trailing the Cubs despite not playing in a hitters park. Of course 3/4 of the most productive players are not here so we are currently anemic, but that's another story.

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                    • #11
                      Putz was acquired via trade...not a free agent signing.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by majorleads View Post
                        If Omar doesn't get fired after this season, then I don't know if he ever will. The minor leagues are in shambles and our major league team is a 140 million dollar mess. I had no idea James Dolan owned the Mets.
                        The Mets are not as dysfunctional as the Knicks. The Mets would not be in this position if Reyes, Beltran, and Delgado all weren't out at the same time.
                        "I'm happy for [Edwin Encarnacion] because this guy bleeds internally, big-time" -Dusty Baker

                        "If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?" -Jeff Francoeur

                        "At the end of the day, the sun comes up and I still have a job" -Joba Chamberlain

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NYMets523 View Post
                          The Mets are not as dysfunctional as the Knicks. The Mets would not be in this position if Reyes, Beltran, and Delgado all weren't out at the same time.
                          They might not be the Knicks yet, but they look a lot like the Rangers who are in their 15th season of rebuilding.

                          Beltran is legit, but Delgado may be washed up, nobody knows. And I would trade Reyes while other clubs may still think he is 'on the way up'. Personally I think Reyes has already peaked. I read that some GM's feel that way too.

                          And Omar's extension is only for 1.1 mil per year. The Yankees sneeze that money.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mandrake View Post
                            They might not be the Knicks yet, but they look a lot like the Rangers who are in their 15th season of rebuilding.

                            Beltran is legit, but Delgado may be washed up, nobody knows. And I would trade Reyes while other clubs may still think he is 'on the way up'. Personally I think Reyes has already peaked. I read that some GM's feel that way too.

                            And Omar's extension is only for 1.1 mil per year. The Yankees sneeze that money.
                            Delgado is a free agent anyway so he won't be back. Sure you can consider trading Reyes but it won't be an option if he doesn't come back healthy this year which is looking less likely every day.

                            I can understand when people are down on Reyes for his mental miscues and childish antics (I know he drives me crazy) but what would suggest that he has already peaked Kevin? Maybe the stolen bases have peaked but ideally he should be running less anyway IMO. The "kid" just turned 26. How many shortstops have put up numbers like he has at that age even without the stolen bases? And even with the occasional bonehead play he's still a good defensive shortstop with an excellent arm. I'm okay with trading him (or anyone for that matter) but you have to get back quality talent. This isn't a rebuilding situation.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by EasilyFound View Post
                              John Heyman is reporting that Mets ownership has told both Jerry and Omar that their jobs are not in jeopardy and that they will be back next season.
                              I hope this is from the same source that he heard we shot down the deal for Halladay!
                              unknown brooklyn cabbie " how are the brooks doin"
                              unknown fan "good they got three men on base"
                              unknown brooklyn cabbie "which one?"

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