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  • Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee election #7, vote 2

    Welcome to Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee election #7, vote 2. Members of the Veteran's Committee are allowed to vote in this election.

    Veteran's Committee Members

    Cowtipper
    Dalkowski110
    Mongoose
    whoisonit - Inactive
    milladrive
    PVNICK
    JerseeJerry55 - Inactive
    Joe Rigatoni
    NJMetfan4life
    MSUlaxer27

    Ballot

    Bob Apodaca
    Rick Aguilera
    George Foster
    Ron Hodges
    Al Jackson
    Lance Johnson
    Terry Leach
    Dave Magadan
    Pedro Martinez
    Kevin McReynolds
    Kevin Mitchell
    Randy Myers
    Doug Sisk
    Tim Teufel
    Frank Viola
    Joel Youngblood
    Pat Zachry

    Voting Rules and Requirements for Election

    You may select as many players from this list to be elected into the Our Mets Hall of Fame as you want. A player must receive at least 75% of the vote to be elected to the Our Mets Hall of Fame.

    Vote Duration

    This vote will run for seven days (until April 29) or until all of the VC members have voted, whichever comes first. However, at least four out of the eight active VC members must vote for the voting to come to a close - so, if only three out of the eight members have voted by the end of day seven, voting will continue until at least one more member has voted.

    How a Player Can No Longer be Eligible for the VC

    If a player is voted off during the initial ballot in two consecutive VC elections, they will no longer be eligible for the VC. If a player makes it past the first cut but doesn't get more than 50% of the vote in the final round in three consecutive VC elections, he too will be no longer eligible for the VC.

    New rules added during VC election #3, vote 2:

    If in a series of three consecutive elections a player: A) makes it past the first cut but doesn't garner 50% in the final round of the in the first election, B) doesn't make it past the first cut in the second election, and C) makes it past the first cut but doesn't garner 50% of the vote in the final round of third election, he will no longer be eligible for the VC.

    If in a series of three consecutive elections a player A) doesn't make it past the first cut in the first election, B) makes it past the first cut but doesn't garner 50% of the vote in the final round of second election C) doesn't make it past the first cut in the third election, he will no longer be eligible for the VC.

    Would You Like to Join?

    Would you like to be a member of Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee? To become one, you must have participated in the regular OMHOF balloting for 10 consecutive ballots you must have voted in 15 ballots total with consecutive votes not necessary to be an OMHOFVC voting member. If you meet those qualifications, you may ask to become a VC member. Your request will then be considered by current VC members, who will vote whether or not they approve or deny your request to join. If 40% approve, you are a member. If you are denied, you may reapply 15 days after the announcement of your denial.*

    If you are approved for membership, you will be eligible to start voting in the next VC election, which will be concurrent to election 55 (and, overlap with election 56 by a few days, if a second round is necessary). **All current members are grandfathered into the VC and do not have to fit these qualifications.

    *The italicized rules are new, having been approved in a vote 4-1 by the eligible voting VC members prior to Veteran's Committee election 4.

  • #2
    Bob Apodaca
    Ron Hodges
    Al Jackson
    Terry Leach
    Dave Magadan
    Kevin McReynolds
    Randy Myers
    Joel Youngblood

    I decided to pick up support for Al Jackson, especially since Roger Craig is now a Hall of Fame member.
    Last edited by Cowtipper; 04-21-2010, 10:43 PM.

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    • #3
      Just a couple pitches:

      Here's my pitch for Bob Apodaca and Randy Myers:

      There have been 416 pitchers in Mets history. Only seven of those 416 have appeared in at least 150 games and posted ERAs under 3.00. Apodaca and Myers are two of those seven. Three of the other five are Skip Lockwood, Jesse Orosco and Tom Seaver, who are in the Hall of Fame. Billy Wagner is part of that list as well, and he has a shot at becoming a Hall of Famer. The seventh member is Armando Benitez.

      My pitch for Joel Youngblood:

      473 non-pitchers have played for the Mets. Only nine of those 473 have played in more than 500 games and had more than 100 doubles, 30 home runs and 15 triples with the team. Joel Youngblood is one of those nine, and the other eight - Jerry Grote, Howard Johnson, Cleon Jones, Ed Kranepool, Lee Mazzilli, Jose Reyes, Darryl Strawberry and Mookie Wilson - are in this Hall of Fame.

      Ron Hodges:

      65 players have caught for the Mets. Six of those 65 have played in at least 600 games for the team. Gary Carter, Jerry Grote, Todd Hundley, Mike Piazza and John Stearns are in the Hall of Fame...only Ron Hodges is not.

      Al Jackson:

      Five pitchers have pitched for the Mets and reached 40 wins, 40 complete games and 10 shutouts. Al Jackson is one of those five, and the other four are Dwight Gooden, Jerry Koosman, Jon Matlack and Tom Seaver.

      Terry Leach:

      Terry Leach is the only pitcher in Mets history with at least 50 appearances to have 10 wins, a winning percentage greater than .650 and an ERA under 3.15. He appeared in 176 games for the Mets, won 24 games, posted a 3.11 ERA and a winning percentage of .727.

      He's also only one of 12 pitchers in Mets history to have at least 175 appearances, 20 wins and an ERA under 3.15. 10 of the other 11 are in this Hall of Fame. Those ten pitchers are David Cone, Sid Fernandez, John Franco, Dwight Gooden, Jerry Koosman, Skip Lockwood, Jon Matlack, Roger McDowell, Jesse Orosco and Tom Seaver. The eleventh is Ron Taylor.

      Dave Magadan:

      Only five players in Mets history have appeared in 600 games for the team and posted batting averages of .290 or greater. The others are Edgardo Alfonzo, Keith Hernandez, Mike Piazza and David Wright.

      Kevin McReynolds:

      Only five players in Mets history have at least 150 home runs, 100 doubles and 50 stolen bases. The four that aren't McReynolds are Carlos Beltran, Howard Johnson, Darryl Strawberry and David Wright. All of them, except for McReynolds, are in the Hall of Fame.
      Last edited by Cowtipper; 04-21-2010, 11:26 PM.

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      • #4
        Bob Apodaca
        George Foster
        Ron Hodges
        Al Jackson
        Lance Johnson
        Terry Leach
        Dave Magadan
        Kevin Mitchell
        Randy Myers
        Doug Sisk
        Tim Teufel
        Joel Youngblood
        Pat Zachry

        I'd also like to make a pitch for Terry Leach. He was always outstanding in whatever role the Mets chose to use him and never complained that he never got a fair shake, despite the fact that... he never got a fair shake! His numbers speak for themselves, and let's not forget his 10 inning one hit shutout against a great Phillies team to end his 1982 season. His reward? It was two years before the Mets let him throw another pitch at the Major League level.

        Kevin McReynolds does not belong in any Mets Hall of Fame. He didn't like playing baseball or being a Met. He was fine with the Mets' devastating ouster from the 1988 playoffs, because it meant another couple weeks of hunting for him. His numbers weren't great, but even if they were, he was a psychic black hole on those late 80s teams; a net minus.


        "The Fightin' Met With Two Heads" - Mike Tyson/Ray Knight!

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        • #5
          Magadan
          Pedro Martinez
          McReynolds

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          • #6
            Bob Apodaca
            Rick Aguilera
            Ron Hodges
            Al Jackson
            Terry Leach
            Dave Magadan
            Kevin McReynolds
            Randy Myers
            Doug Sisk
            Frank Viola
            Joel Youngblood
            Pat Zachry
            Put it in the books.

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            • #7
              Ron Hodges
              Al Jackson
              Dave Magadan
              Kevin McReynolds
              Joel Youngblood
              Pat Zachry

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              • #8
                Terry Leach.

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                • #9
                  Bob Apodaca
                  Al Jackson
                  Terry Leach
                  Dave Magadan
                  Kevin McReynolds (Did a lot of thinking on him before changing my mind)
                  Randy Myers
                  Joel Youngblood
                  "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
                  -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

                  Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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                  • #10
                    Spoiler alert:

                    At this point, there are five players who have a mathematical shot at being elected to the Hall of Fame, pending Joe Rigatoni's vote.

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                    • #11
                      Rick Aguilera
                      George Foster
                      Ron Hodges
                      Al Jackson
                      Lance Johnson
                      Pedro Martinez
                      Kevin McReynolds
                      Kevin Mitchell
                      Doug Sisk
                      Tim Teufel
                      Frank Viola
                      Pat Zachry
                      "You don't give up any runs,we'll guarantee you
                      at least a tie." ~ Grote to Koosman

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                      • #12
                        And with that, we end our voting. Welcome aboard:



                        Al Jackson



                        Kevin McReynolds

                        Code:
                        Name                 Percentage
                        
                        Al Jackson		75.00%
                        Kevin McReynolds	75.00%
                        Dave Magadan		62.50%
                        Joel Youngblood		62.50%
                        Terry Leach		62.50%
                        Ron Hodges		62.50%
                        Bob Apodaca		50.00%
                        Randy Myers		50.00%
                        Pat Zachry		50.00%
                        Doug Sisk		37.50%
                        Rick Aguilera		25.00%
                        George Foster		25.00%
                        Lance Johnson		25.00%
                        Pedro Martinez		25.00%
                        Kevin Mitchell		25.00%
                        Tim Teufel		25.00%
                        Frank Viola		25.00%
                        Magadan, Youngblood, Leach and Hodges were each one vote away.

                        As a result of this election, Rick Aguilera, George Foster, Kevin Mitchell, Doug Sisk, Tim Teufel and Frank Viola are no longer eligible for the Veteran's Committee.

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                        • #13
                          Kevin McReynolds still sucks.


                          "The Fightin' Met With Two Heads" - Mike Tyson/Ray Knight!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
                            Spoiler alert:

                            At this point, there are five players who have a mathematical shot at being elected to the Hall of Fame, pending Joe Rigatoni's vote.
                            Not a big deal, but in all fairness, for those who might be keeping up with the math, it's possible a spoiler alert may unwittingly place undue pressure on those who have yet to vote.

                            Also, unless I'm mistaken, contrary to the indications of the final posts, Hodges wasn't one vote away, for Rigatoni voted for him yet he wasn't inducted.

                            At very least, those particular unelected four are mercifully still eligible for the next VC round. I'm of the opinion they all warrant VC induction.


                            Originally posted by Mongoose View Post
                            Kevin McReynolds still sucks.
                            Yup, he sucks. Just enough suckage to be inducted. ....Could be a conspiracy.
                            Put it in the books.

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                            • #15
                              Just curious. What was the highest percentage of vote that everybody's "favorite sourpuss" received during the regular elections? In my mind the complete opposite of everything a "Hall of Famer" should be. He put up decent stats, gave little effort and really didn't want to be here. Awesome selection guys!

                              True story. My father repaired Kevin McReynold's Toyota 4-Runner in 1989. For this service he gave my father an autographed photograph of himself in his Met uniform. I'm the oldest so my dad asked if I wanted it, but having watched him and his sterling personality over the two and a half seasons prior, I wanted nothing to do with it (plus Hojo was my favorite Met). My brother got the photo.

                              Didn't like him then, don't like his selection now. What might have happened in 1987, 1989 and 1990 had he actually given a crap.

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