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  • #16
    Terry Collins......sounds like Dallas Green to me. Guess he'll be the bridge to the next manager they hire when they're ready to win in a few years.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by StrawberryField View Post
      Terry Collins......sounds like Dallas Green to me. Guess he'll be the bridge to the next manager they hire when they're ready to win in a few years.
      If the players play well they will win. If they dont they wont. Its really a simple game. The day I see a manager give up a homer, make an error, or strikeout is the day I will give the manager more credit or blame.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Paulypal View Post
        If the players play well they will win. If they dont they wont. Its really a simple game. The day I see a manager give up a homer, make an error, or strikeout is the day I will give the manager more credit or blame.
        Yeah, but there's a reason some managers are able to get the most out of players while others aren't. The Mets basically hired a guy that players hate to play for, and a guy whose teams that fired him went on to have playoff success with his successor. To me the Terry Collins is the fall guy. They don't want to hire a good manager right now cause any manager will lose with this group and get the skipper fired. Once the rebuilding is gaining momentum the media and fans will get sick of Collins, call for his head, the Mets will deliver it to us on a silver platter, and the next real hire will reap the benefits of the rebuild.

        Or Terry Collins is the next Casey Stengal and the Mets go on to Dynastic glory.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by StrawberryField View Post
          Yeah, but there's a reason some managers are able to get the most out of players while others aren't. The Mets basically hired a guy that players hate to play for, and a guy whose teams that fired him went on to have playoff success with his successor. To me the Terry Collins is the fall guy. They don't want to hire a good manager right now cause any manager will lose with this group and get the skipper fired. Once the rebuilding is gaining momentum the media and fans will get sick of Collins, call for his head, the Mets will deliver it to us on a silver platter, and the next real hire will reap the benefits of the rebuild.

          Or Terry Collins is the next Casey Stengal and the Mets go on to Dynastic glory.
          I think they think they hired the best possible choice of the guys they interviewed. I am just glad it wasnt Backman because his trailer would take up too much space in the parking lot.

          So he will get fired or manage a dynasty? Sounds like the possibilites everytime a manger,,,,any manager is hired.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Paulypal View Post
            I think they think they hired the best possible choice of the guys they interviewed. I am just glad it wasnt Backman because his trailer would take up too much space in the parking lot.

            So he will get fired or manage a dynasty? Sounds like the possibilites everytime a manger,,,,any manager is hired.
            I'm glad they didn't hire Bob "Art Howe" Melvin. That's about as glass is half full as I can get with this hire. Met farmhands must be extatic with this hire, since all reports I've read is that many of them hated his guts.
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            • #21
              Wow, apparently in Japan Terry Collins quit during the 2008 season when the team was 21-28 and in 5th place. That team finished the 2008 season in second place.....
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              • #22
                Originally posted by StrawberryField View Post
                I'm glad they didn't hire Bob "Art Howe" Melvin. That's about as glass is half full as I can get with this hire. Met farmhands must be extatic with this hire, since all reports I've read is that many of them hated his guts.

                what reports have you read that the mets farmhands hate collins?????......ALL i've read is that Collins is absolutely FANTASTIC during his time dealing with our farm
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by StrawberryField View Post
                  Wow, apparently in Japan Terry Collins quit during the 2008 season when the team was 21-28 and in 5th place. That team finished the 2008 season in second place.....
                  Really? Is this where your going? You going to start a smear campaign? Didnt you get enough of this a month ago before election day?

                  Wally Backman was thrown out of a game then had a 20 minute tirade, and seemed more concerned where his next beer was coming from. The other two candidates once cheated on a math test in 4th grade. Whats your point? Collins is the manager....deal with it.

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                  • #24
                    On one hand I am very disappointed Wally will not be managing the Mets right now, however, on the other hand I take great comfort in knowing he won't have to manage Mr no pulse Carlos Beltran and the rest of the dreck that is on the roster at the present time. Then after Collins goes 50-112 this season, Wally can take over next offseason with a brand new roster which is hopefully filled with lots of young promising players from our farm system.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by majorleads View Post
                      On one hand I am very disappointed Wally will not be managing the Mets right now, however, on the other hand I take great comfort in knowing he won't have to manage Mr no pulse Carlos Beltran and the rest of the dreck that is on the roster at the present time. Then after Collins goes 50-112 this season, Wally can take over next offseason with a brand new roster which is hopefully filled with lots of young promising players from our farm system.
                      Correction. The Met players will be 50-112. Collins can only play the roster he has.

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                      • #26
                        OK, Alderson made his choice on who will fill out line-ups cards and call for the hit and run. Now let's get working on the ones who will really determine winning and losing - the players.

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                        • #27
                          This has been the best off-season in team history. If you're unhappy with Alderson and staff, you're just unhappy. Perhaps you'd like Omar back? Alderson hires Collins, I'm happy. Not because I am familiar with Collins, but because I'm familiar with Alderson. Sit back, shut up and enjoy the fact that we are no longer a laughingstock organization.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by metfan13 View Post
                            OK, Alderson made his choice on who will fill out line-ups cards and call for the hit and run. Now let's get working on the ones who will really determine winning and losing - the players.
                            I'm starting to like you.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Paulypal View Post
                              I'm starting to like you.
                              Odd, I was just thinking the other day that I notice myself actually reading your posts again and agreeing with much of what you're writing.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by m8644 View Post
                                what reports have you read that the mets farmhands hate collins?????......ALL i've read is that Collins is absolutely FANTASTIC during his time dealing with our farm
                                I think I read it in the daily news, that some thought he was too intense and moody....Who knows in the end.
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