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  • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
    If Sandy Alderson thinks Jason Bay is near untouchable, it's clear he's been out of the baseball talent loop for way too long - he ought to be working to sign Jose Reyes.



    http://www.metsblog.com/2010/11/26/t...e-reyes-rumor/
    He is untouchable for the simple fact that there isnt another team that would even consider taking him. A 6 home run season topped off by a head injury......yeah I would say nobody is going to come calling.

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    • Originally posted by Shea Knight View Post
      A lot of talk here about Jeter, what if he signed with the Mets, should he...

      I'll say this much--my Ducks and 49ers, hokcey and football are sports I love...the Mets and baseball are part of my LIFE.

      More than a decade ago, now, I hated the Dodgers forever more after they traded Piazza TO the Mets.

      If Derek Jeter, Captain of the Yankees, who's a great guy but still captain of the team I've hated for as long as I've loved baseball, came to the Mets on the downside of his career AND displaced a player who I think highly of, is a sparkplug, young, and already an All-Star and the Mets' SB leader in Reyes...

      I might not hate the Mets adn give them up as my team, but I'm not sure I could bear to listen to or watch the Mets if I had to write Derek Jeter in at shortstop at the top of my scorecard each game, and knowing that he came from the Yankees, it'd just be the Mets getting the Yanks' leftovers, he doesn't ahve the talent he once had, he has one, two, three years if he's lucky left, AND we'd be losing, in return, a guy who came back from a bad injury the year before and played pretty well, whose .283 average would be a lot higher except...well, that first month back was BAD, but that's understandable after a guy hasn't played at the major league level in a year.

      It's not going to happen, I can't see the Mets being THAT stupid (which I know at this point sounds liek Charlie Brown saying he's SURE this is his year on the mound before the first pitch of the year smacks him on his tuchus, but with Alderson there and all I don't think even the METS can be THAT stupid), I can't see BOTH New York clubs acting stupidly and the Yanks letting him go (that'd be a PR DISASTER for them, letting one of the most iconic players on the most iconic team end his career somewhere else, it'd be like Mantle or Diaggio playing for another team at the end, or repeating the debacle of Babe Ruth in a Boston Braves uniform) and I can't see Jeter being so stupid as to leave the team and area he's BELOVED and the team that will surely retire his number as he sports their cap in Cooperstown.

      It WON'T happen, thank goodness.

      But just for the record, if it did, I might have to watch the Angels or something here, because while it'd take something like a Black Sox Scandal to make me even THINK of giving up the Orange and Blue, signing Jeter AND expelling Reyes because of such a short-sighted move might make me have to shun them for a year...wich is hard for me to even think of, really, I'm unhappy when I miss a single GAME of Mets baseball, I listen and watch old games in the offseason, play with an All-Time Mets team when I use my All-Time mod of MLB 08: The Show...

      But +JETER and -REYES because of it...OY...thank goodness none of the three parties are THAT stupid, let alone all three (I'm just going to keep saying that until Jeter safely resings and my dread subsides...all three, all three aren't that stupid...maybe the Mets might be, maybe the Wil--, no, the Wildpons are definitely that stupid, but Alderson's not that stupid, and the Yankees aren't an ALCS team because they're stupid, Jeter's not a millionaire and HOFer because he's stupid, so it'll be OK...it'll be OK...)
      No way Jeter becomes a Met - we were just "iffing" it to death. The Yanks are playing hardball with him but I still dont see him on any other team because no team is going to even match the Yankee offer of 15 million a year, never mind 20-23 Jeter is asking for.

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      • Pauly, that's the point that keeps being missed in various posts here and elsewhere about anyone signing Jeter. Any other team would be crazy to pay what the yanks are offering. No way is anyone going to top their offer.

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        • Originally posted by metfan13 View Post
          Pauly, that's the point that keeps being missed in various posts here and elsewhere about anyone signing Jeter. Any other team would be crazy to pay what the yanks are offering. No way is anyone going to top their offer.
          I think we all know there is no way Jeter is becoming a Met. Like I said we were just saying "what if". I dont think anyone that added anything to it actually thinks its possible or even wants it for that matter. I know I definately dont want that to happen. We already have too many big contracts without the appropriate production hamstringing us right now.

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          • So far the best front office money can buy has essentially lost two valuable relievers from a decent but depleted bullpen - Hisanori Takashi and Pedro Feliciano (who opted against arbitration). Where are the player moves? What's the plan (outside of rattling Mets' fans cages about shopping one of the team's two most popular players)?

            This is bad, folks - muy malo.

            Bring back Omar!
            Cleon Jones catches a deep fly ball in F. Scott Fitzgerald's Valley of the Ashes, and a second-grader smiles in front of the black and white television.

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            • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
              So far the best front office money can buy has essentially lost two valuable relievers from a decent but depleted bullpen - Hisanori Takashi and Pedro Feliciano (who opted against arbitration). Where are the player moves? What's the plan (outside of rattling Mets' fans cages about shopping one of the team's two most popular players)?

              This is bad, folks - muy malo.

              Bring back Omar!
              Wow your getting really comical. Bring back Omar? I hope its comedy - the alternative really isnt too good. I can see this is going to be a long haul with you posting about everything the front office does.

              Feliciano refused arbitration to test the market which is his right to do. Alderson has no control over that. Do you understand that? Are the Mets supposed to throw stupid money at a reliever when they are going no where in 2011.

              Here is the Takahashi saga:

              http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...to-up-the-ante

              The highlights are that the Mets made an offer to Takahashi for one year BEFORE Alderson was hired. After that who knows what transpired. Maybe his agent was insulted and refused to talk any further, but being that you are looking to get Minaya back you must be bright enough to know all the details.

              Are you really looking for big player moves? If you are you betting get your keyboard ready for more attacks on Alderson because their are not going to be many player moves to speak of this off season. Thats the plan. I dont know why you cant understand that 2011 is going to be a transition year. You better start getting use to it.

              Hire Omar back...LOL what a joke.

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              • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
                So far the best front office money can buy has essentially lost two valuable relievers from a decent but depleted bullpen - Hisanori Takashi and Pedro Feliciano (who opted against arbitration). Where are the player moves? What's the plan (outside of rattling Mets' fans cages about shopping one of the team's two most popular players)?

                This is bad, folks - muy malo.

                Bring back Omar!
                Oh? You wanted to sign Tak long term and overpay a lefty specialist? You don't want that sandwich pick in what is supposed to be one of the deepest drafts in a long time?

                I think it's best if posters here just ignore you.

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                • Originally posted by CokeMachineGlow View Post
                  Oh? You wanted to sign Tak long term and overpay a lefty specialist? You don't want that sandwich pick in what is supposed to be one of the deepest drafts in a long time?

                  I think it's best if posters here just ignore you.
                  Ignore him? Are you sure? I was just on the phone with The Post starting a campaign to get Omar back.

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                  • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
                    So far the best front office money can buy has essentially lost two valuable relievers from a decent but depleted bullpen - Hisanori Takashi and Pedro Feliciano (who opted against arbitration). Where are the player moves? What's the plan (outside of rattling Mets' fans cages about shopping one of the team's two most popular players)?

                    This is bad, folks - muy malo.

                    Bring back Omar!
                    For now I'll assume you're joking.

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                    • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
                      So far the best front office money can buy has essentially lost two valuable relievers from a decent but depleted bullpen - Hisanori Takashi and Pedro Feliciano (who opted against arbitration). Where are the player moves? What's the plan (outside of rattling Mets' fans cages about shopping one of the team's two most popular players)?

                      This is bad, folks - muy malo.

                      Bring back Omar!

                      we just got a high draft pick in a very deep draft in exchange for a very replaceable lefty specialist.....trust us, this is a very good thing for the mets going forward.
                      "all the mets road wins against the dodgers this year have occured at Dodger Stadium"---Ralph Kiner

                      "Blind people came to the park just to listen to him pitch"---Reggie Jackson, talking about Tom Seaver

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                      • Originally posted by m8644 View Post
                        we just got a high draft pick in a very deep draft in exchange for a very replaceable lefty specialist.....trust us, this is a very good thing for the mets going forward.
                        Yeah it's great - I'm totally pumped about the 2016 season!
                        Cleon Jones catches a deep fly ball in F. Scott Fitzgerald's Valley of the Ashes, and a second-grader smiles in front of the black and white television.

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                        • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
                          Yeah it's great - I'm totally pumped about the 2016 season!

                          Again, Pedro Feliciano is VERY replaceable.....he sucks against righties.....meaning he is an aging lefty specialist. A team not going to contend in 2011 should NOT be paying 4 million to a lefty specialist......you take that high draft pick and run. ANY good gm would do the same thing. DId you know that for letting Mike Hampton go, we got a high draft pick in exchange for him.....that turned out to be David Wright.

                          I truly don't understand what you're missing here
                          "all the mets road wins against the dodgers this year have occured at Dodger Stadium"---Ralph Kiner

                          "Blind people came to the park just to listen to him pitch"---Reggie Jackson, talking about Tom Seaver

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                          • Originally posted by m8644 View Post
                            Again, Pedro Feliciano is VERY replaceable.....he sucks against righties.....meaning he is an aging lefty specialist. A team not going to contend in 2011 should NOT be paying 4 million to a lefty specialist......you take that high draft pick and run. ANY good gm would do the same thing. DId you know that for letting Mike Hampton go, we got a high draft pick in exchange for him.....that turned out to be David Wright.

                            I truly don't understand what you're missing here
                            Sometimes in order to go forward you need to go backwards first. The organization has been going backwards for a while now. Chasing its tail, making bad deal after bad deal. The thing is Omar making these made is seem like he was doing something although the deals were making the Mets slip deeper into the abyss. Basically he was fooling the fan base - at least those that were allowed to be fooled.

                            Our current front office knows what it takes. We need to take a legitimate step backwards and re-org. Trim the fat and create a real organization. Last year I started a thread titled The Mets Are A Lost Organization. This was exactly the problem. The damn was leaking and the Wilpons/Omar were trying to fix it with band aids. That will not happen here.

                            The problem with going backwards is that most fans cant accept a season knowing the .500 is the top side. Although 2009/2010 were horrors most of the fan base was FOOLED into thinking something else going in. Silly rabbits.

                            Now I am going to say something and you can mark my words..put it in stone. After the 2011 season the dimensions of the Citi Morgue will be changed. This will part of the 2012 resurgence. I rather them do it this off season and let it play out for a season to show a potential big hitters that their career wont be finished by signing here. I just am not sure thats going to happen over this winter.

                            As far as the Strawman - I just cant believe he really believes what he is typing. Its either to stir crap up or they are alcohol induced tirades. Nobody can be that off.........can they?

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                            • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
                              Yeah it's great - I'm totally pumped about the 2016 season!
                              If you're so enamored with lefty specialists, we can easily get a player that's cheaper than Feliciano.

                              I don't get it, is this your best troll attempt?

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                              • Originally posted by Paulypal View Post
                                Now I am going to say something and you can mark my words..put it in stone. After the 2011 season the dimensions of the Citi Morgue will be changed. This will part of the 2012 resurgence. I rather them do it this off season and let it play out for a season to show a potential big hitters that their career wont be finished by signing here. I just am not sure thats going to happen over this winter.
                                On this issue, Sandy Alderson said in an interview with Michael Kay that we will see how this ballpark effects team performance next year and then in the 2011-2012 offseason make the necessary changes. Lets hope he does.
                                Just call me a sports fan.

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