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  • Tonight, I Saw, For The First Time...

    ...the full broadcast of Game 6 of that 1986 World Series, as part of that "Baseball's Best Games" DVD I bought.

    And...yeah, a happy ending, maybe the only one I'll see this year.

    I had seen the bottom of the 10th, of course, numerous times--there's actually a great RBI Baseball version on YouTube for anyone interested, they have Vin Scully's call and everything--and Henderson's HR and a few other bits, but never the whole game, nothing close to it...

    WOW--even leaving out that insane 10th inning...

    Clemens shutting the Mets down completely to start (always hated him, always will)...
    The parachuting guy at the beginning...
    Elster's error...
    Spike Owen getting pulled off the bag...
    Ray Knight nearly costing the game at 1st with an error (ironic!)...
    Mazzilli's hit...
    Davey Johnson having HoJo swing rather than bunt (why did he do that?!)...

    And just everything else, and, of course, Vin Scully calling it all--

    It was as great as advertised, lived up to the hype, it really and truly did, which considering the game's legendary status, that's saying something.

    So--

    Before the season starts on Thursday (Johan's starting, it looks like, at least that's something to look forward to) and we return to the yearly grind--

    As I take it I'm probably the youngest here, all of a college undergrad (though transferring with an AA this Fall) and all...

    Probably everyone else has some memory of that game, and that Series...favorite moments for you?

    Reminisce about the good times before a likely-stormy season hits home?

    I'll say this, which caught my attention--

    I fell in love with the Piazza-era Mets, and those teams always seemed to go late into the game and try and do whatever it took to win...

    And that's the Mets here; obviously it's Mookie's grounder and the error and all that, but even before that, that team seemed to be playing with a "whatever it takes" mentality, and it was those close plays and unconventional moments...and they often seemed to go in the Mets' favor, somehow.

    And I realize--THAT'S what I fell in love with and what I have always loved about the Mets--when they win, they make it an EVENT.

    No Mariano 1-2-3 and thaaaaaa Metropolitans win...it's always unique, somehow; sure, Orosco closed Game 7, but before that, you had the rest of the game, and Game 6's wild finish, and the close games before that...

    The same goes for so many of my all-time favorite Mets games, that I saw:

    Robin Ventura's Grand Single...
    The Agbayani HR...
    The 20-Inning Epic against the Cardinals in 2010...

    And just a whole bunch of other regular season games the Piazza/Leiter/Bobby V. Mets and then the Wright/Reyes/Beltran Mets seemed to have.

    And that's part of the magic of the Mets, for me, anyway--they may lose (in fact, most of the time, they will) but they're NOT the Yankees, they're not just a winning machine...and while you want them to win, and eventually (hopefully) they will be that great team again, even when they ARE a great team, or a contending team, they don't win in cold, calculated games, it seems...

    When they win, more than anything else, they seem to make it memorable and make it count--they win and lose with passion.

    The Yankees win more, WAY more...but how much passion is there in a 1-2-3 Mariano inning or a 10-0 blowout?

    After all, 2 of the best games of the last decade--Game 7 of the 2001 WS and Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS--feature Mariano BLOWING the save, that cold, calculated Yankee Way of winning.

    I don't know--I want to win as much as anyone, and call me a hopeless romantic when it comes to baseball (maybe that's why I'm a Mets fan) but Game 6 1986...

    It didn't make me think of a time when the Mets were a juggernaut, just a time when they won with passion.

    So, as long as they still have passion...maybe there's still something to root for this year?

    Maybe Dickey or Santana can finally get the no-hitter for our 50th anniversary?
    That game Jason Bay seemed to screw it up time and again and still the Mets beat the Yankees last year...
    "Ya Gotta Believe!" -Tug McGraw ... "How we deal with death is at least as important as how we deal with life." -James T. Kirk ... "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." -Sherlock Holmes ... "It is out of the deepest depth that the highest must come to its height." -Friedrich Nietzsche ... "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

  • #2
    Originally posted by Shea Knight View Post
    ...the full broadcast of Game 6 of that 1986 World Series, as part of that "Baseball's Best Games" DVD I bought.

    And...yeah, a happy ending, maybe the only one I'll see this year.

    I had seen the bottom of the 10th, of course, numerous times--there's actually a great RBI Baseball version on YouTube for anyone interested, they have Vin Scully's call and everything--and Henderson's HR and a few other bits, but never the whole game, nothing close to it...

    WOW--even leaving out that insane 10th inning...

    Clemens shutting the Mets down completely to start (always hated him, always will)...
    The parachuting guy at the beginning...
    Elster's error...
    Spike Owen getting pulled off the bag...
    Ray Knight nearly costing the game at 1st with an error (ironic!)...
    Mazzilli's hit...
    Davey Johnson having HoJo swing rather than bunt (why did he do that?!)...

    And just everything else, and, of course, Vin Scully calling it all--

    It was as great as advertised, lived up to the hype, it really and truly did, which considering the game's legendary status, that's saying something.

    So--

    Before the season starts on Thursday (Johan's starting, it looks like, at least that's something to look forward to) and we return to the yearly grind--

    As I take it I'm probably the youngest here, all of a college undergrad (though transferring with an AA this Fall) and all...

    Probably everyone else has some memory of that game, and that Series...favorite moments for you?

    Reminisce about the good times before a likely-stormy season hits home?

    I'll say this, which caught my attention--

    I fell in love with the Piazza-era Mets, and those teams always seemed to go late into the game and try and do whatever it took to win...

    And that's the Mets here; obviously it's Mookie's grounder and the error and all that, but even before that, that team seemed to be playing with a "whatever it takes" mentality, and it was those close plays and unconventional moments...and they often seemed to go in the Mets' favor, somehow.

    And I realize--THAT'S what I fell in love with and what I have always loved about the Mets--when they win, they make it an EVENT.

    No Mariano 1-2-3 and thaaaaaa Metropolitans win...it's always unique, somehow; sure, Orosco closed Game 7, but before that, you had the rest of the game, and Game 6's wild finish, and the close games before that...

    The same goes for so many of my all-time favorite Mets games, that I saw:

    Robin Ventura's Grand Single...
    The Agbayani HR...
    The 20-Inning Epic against the Cardinals in 2010...

    And just a whole bunch of other regular season games the Piazza/Leiter/Bobby V. Mets and then the Wright/Reyes/Beltran Mets seemed to have.

    And that's part of the magic of the Mets, for me, anyway--they may lose (in fact, most of the time, they will) but they're NOT the Yankees, they're not just a winning machine...and while you want them to win, and eventually (hopefully) they will be that great team again, even when they ARE a great team, or a contending team, they don't win in cold, calculated games, it seems...

    When they win, more than anything else, they seem to make it memorable and make it count--they win and lose with passion.

    The Yankees win more, WAY more...but how much passion is there in a 1-2-3 Mariano inning or a 10-0 blowout?

    After all, 2 of the best games of the last decade--Game 7 of the 2001 WS and Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS--feature Mariano BLOWING the save, that cold, calculated Yankee Way of winning.

    I don't know--I want to win as much as anyone, and call me a hopeless romantic when it comes to baseball (maybe that's why I'm a Mets fan) but Game 6 1986...

    It didn't make me think of a time when the Mets were a juggernaut, just a time when they won with passion.

    So, as long as they still have passion...maybe there's still something to root for this year?

    Maybe Dickey or Santana can finally get the no-hitter for our 50th anniversary?
    That game Jason Bay seemed to screw it up time and again and still the Mets beat the Yankees last year...
    Hojo didnt bunt simply because he couldnt.

    I am not sure when it was - earlier in the season, in the playoffs, or in the WS, but Davey had Hojo bunt and it was hideous. He looked like he had never done it before. Davey took a lot of heat for not having Hojo bunt or put someone up that could.

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    • #3
      I'm grateful for having the entire '86 WS on a DVD box package including all seven games. It also includes Game 6 of the '86 NLCS.
      Put it in the books.

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      • #4
        Everytime I watch the live broadcast of that game I am always amazed (pun intended) they won. I mean, I really think they're going to blow it somehow. Funny, I was six when that game happened and my sharpest memory is of my mom saying "look at them, they think they won already" when they show that scene of Clemens standing on the dugout high-fiving someone. I wish I can say I remember how I felt when it happened but I don't. For sheer drama and ecstasy, I have to go with the Todd Pratt homerun, which I saw on tv, and the Ventura homerun, which I saw in person.

        I'm guessing game 6 had the intensity of Rangers - Devils game 7, where I literally had a a stress ball in my hand for the third period and both overtimes.
        Sign Cespedes & Murphy

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        • #5
          Ironically, game six was the only game of the 1986 Series that I missed. It fell on my duty day and I was on watch during the game. The only parts I got to see were the parachustist and the last two ABs. I did see the Buckner error live.

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          • #6
            Ironically, Bill Buckner was at bat when the guy with the parachute landed on the field.
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            What's THAT guy doing?
            - one of the YES Network broadcasters, after the camera cut to me doing the thumbs-down after Todd Frazier's home run

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