Kirk Nieuwenhuis

[CokeMachineGlow]

Everyone here seems to be enamored with Nieuwenhuis, but we really need to temper expectations. Cap'N Kirk is running on a unsustainable BABIP and is striking out like Adam Dunn. His slash line at the moment is nice, but it's a small sample size regardless. A month from now, he'll probably fall back down to earth. There's still plenty of reason for optimism, though. He has decent potential and can probably maintain a solid role in the Majors once he fixes up his deficiencies.

[EasilyFound]

Agreed. He has a long way to go to be mentioned in the same sentence with Lucas Duda.

[PVNICK]

If all we could talk about was proven commodities there'd be nothing to talk about with this team after Wright and Santana.

[Cowtipper]

Agreed. But let's enjoy it while we can.

[milladrive]

Agreed. But let's enjoy it while we can.

Indeed. I say ride the wave while we can. All this "a month from now" talk is fine and dandy, but it's meaningless for the here and now.

At least I know I'm not the only one who thinks moving Newie to left is a poor decision, for it was the first words out of Darling's mouth during last night's pre-game show. If Kirk is gonna be the centerfielder of the future -- which many insiders feel he is -- then leaving him in center is the most logical thing to do. Even Torres himself said he'll play anywhere. When he was with the Giants, he played all three outfield positions and is more than willing to do that with the Mets. Right now, I'd swap Newie back to center and put Torres in left (or right, if Duda's not feeling well).

:twocents:

[Paulypal]

Agreed. But let's enjoy it while we can.

Agreed enjoy while we can. But this leads me to another question:

When will the Mets ever come up with a bonafide everyday player this is a superstar? I dont mean Wright or Reyes...neither of which were ever in that catergory and their performance if you look at the career at this point was so up/down and injured. I mean a real bonafide Superstar.

When do we get a Matt Kemp - Ryan Braun - Cano -Pujols -Bonds? I mean a real player to hang your hat on......not these fly by night...had a good month in April once type of players. I mean a true Met HOF'er. I dont even put Piazza in that catergory, not by a long shot. His best years were with the Dodgers by far.

When Strawberry was signed he was supposed to be that type of guy, but due to having very little between his ears he wasnt. Darryl was signed in June of 1980....... 1980. That was 32 years ago that we signed someone that was supposed to be an all time great Met.

This team is 50 years old and their everyday player history is probably the poorest of all the active teams right now.

[milladrive]

Not too off topic.

[Paulypal]

Not too off topic.

When Kirk Nieuwenhuis gets a thread its an indicator ........isnt it?

[Strawman]

Agreed enjoy while we can. But this leads me to another question:

When will the Mets ever come up with a bonafide everyday player this is a superstar? I dont mean Wright or Reyes...neither of which were ever in that catergory and their performance if you look at the career at this point was so up/down and injured. I mean a real bonafide Superstar.

When do we get a Matt Kemp - Ryan Braun - Cano -Pujols -Bonds? I mean a real player to hang your hat on......not these fly by night...had a good month in April once type of players. I mean a true Met HOF'er. I dont even put Piazza in that catergory, not by a long shot. His best years were with the Dodgers by far.

When Strawberry was signed he was supposed to be that type of guy, but due to having very little between his ears he wasnt. Darryl was signed in June of 1980....... 1980. That was 32 years ago that we signed someone that was supposed to be an all time great Met.

This team is 50 years old and their everyday player history is probably the poorest of all the active teams right now.

It's been suggested that perhaps Ruben Tejada is that player....or Dan Murphy....or Lucas Duda!

You're right about Piazza, he wasn't developed by the Mets - we lucked into him from a failing Florida franchise and basically re-signed him as a FA.

Wright and Reyes? Not that very top echelon, though they're both in top 5 of all-time homegrown Met position players and the best at their respective positions - ever - in team history. Each has an outside shot at the Hall of Fame, discounting injuries, beanings, and mental weakness related to outfield walls.

The only all-timer remains Tom Seaver.

[Paulypal]

It's been suggested that perhaps Ruben Tejada is that player....or Dan Murphy....or Lucas Duda!

You're right about Piazza, he wasn't developed by the Mets - we lucked into him from a failing Florida franchise and basically re-signed him as a FA.

Wright and Reyes? Not that very top echelon, though they're both in top 5 of all-time homegrown Met position players and the best at their respective positions - ever - in team history. Each has an outside shot at the Hall of Fame, discounting injuries, beanings, and mental weakness related to outfield walls.

The only all-timer remains Tom Seaver.

I agree on Seaver, but I was directing my comments on everyday players. I just dont see Wright and Reyes as HOF'ers. They are both approaching 30 and dont have nearly credentials that players should have in the middle of their prime. They both need to have a huge upswing to have that happen, and that doesnt usually occur at their age.

Oh and to keep current and right on track with the theme of the original post.......I dont see Kirk Nieuwenhuis as a HOF'er either.

[Paulypal]

Agreed. He has a long way to go to be mentioned in the same sentence with Lucas Duda.

If that was meant to be funny it was. It really was.

If that was meant to be serious it was sad. It really was.

[CokeMachineGlow]

Indeed. I say ride the wave while we can. All this "a month from now" talk is fine and dandy, but it's meaningless for the here and now.

At least I know I'm not the only one who thinks moving Newie to left is a poor decision, for it was the first words out of Darling's mouth during last night's pre-game show. If Kirk is gonna be the centerfielder of the future -- which many insiders feel he is -- then leaving him in center is the most logical thing to do. Even Torres himself said he'll play anywhere. When he was with the Giants, he played all three outfield positions and is more than willing to do that with the Mets. Right now, I'd swap Newie back to center and put Torres in left (or right, if Duda's not feeling well).

:twocents:

It's more defensively sound playing Torres at CF and Nieuwenhuis at LF because of Kirk's lack of range and defensive ability (he's certainly no Lucas Duda, though). I'd hardly call him a future CF. More like a LF, IMO.

[EasilyFound]

If that was meant to be funny it was. It really was.

If that was meant to be serious it was sad. It really was.

OK. I laughed out loud at this post. I hope that give you a clue.

[Paulypal]

OK. I laughed out loud at this post. I hope that give you a clue.

Just so you know...I get your sarcasm.

[EasilyFound]

I guess my sarcasm meter was off a bit.