Our Mets Hall of Fame - the 9th Managers Election

[Cowtipper]

This is the eighth election for Our Mets Hall of Fame, managers edition. Last time we elected nobody. The rules of this election are like those of the regular election.

New managers:

None

Dropped managers:

None

Holdovers:

[b]Manager                Percentage     High %          Years on ballot[/b]

Willie Randolph            50.00         50.00                8

Holdovers dropped: 

None

Last year of eligibility:

None

Returnees:

There are some managers who dropped off the ballot previously that worked for the Mets in 2010 or 2011. These managers are returning to the ballot because these seasons may have changed your opinion on them in terms of Hall of Fame worthiness. Rules are slightly different for these individuals. 

Different rules:

1) They can appear on a maximum of five ballots, including this one, or until their 15th year of eligibility.
2) They must receive at least 10% of the electorate's support each year to remain on the ballot.
3) If they have already reached their 15th year of eligibility or have reached then dropped out of the Veteran's Committee, they can appear on no more than three ballots, including this one. 

[B]List of Returnees:[/B]

Terry Collins

[Cowtipper]

As the Mets drift further and further into the icy clutches of this most depressing of losing slumps, I yearn more and more for the halcyon days of victory and glory.

So I cast a vote for Randolph.

[milladrive]

I've been pushing for Randolph since his first time on the ballot. Perhaps hindsight will help a bit, but the fact that he's got the second best winning percentage of any Mets manager in history should help also.

:twocents:

[PVNICK]

I donno about Randolph. 3 1/2 seasons + one 90 win post season appearance = HOF is kinda an indictment of the organization. I hate to do this because if there is a sparse turnout one nay may be essentially a veto, but none of the above.

[Joe Rigatoni]

I donno about Randolph. 3 1/2 seasons + one 90 win post season appearance = HOF is kinda an indictment of the organization. I hate to do this because if there is a sparse turnout one nay may be essentially a veto, but none of the above.

I feel the same way with everything that PVNICK said so as a result I have to vote none of the above.

[milladrive]

I donno about Randolph. 3 1/2 seasons + one 90 win post season appearance = HOF is kinda an indictment of the organization. I hate to do this because if there is a sparse turnout one nay may be essentially a veto, but none of the above.

I feel the same way with everything that PVNICK said so as a result I have to vote none of the above.

I'm sorry you guys feel that way. Frankly, Gil Hodges managed the Mets for only a little over a half season more than Randolph (649 games vs. 555 games) and, despite the '69 Miracle, Gil is fifth on the all-time W/L percentage list (minimum 200 games).

So what the Mets never made a World Series during Randolph's tenure? So what he managed only one 90+-win season. The team won 88 games in '07. Bottom line: In 555 games, Willie Randolph managed the Mets to a 302-253 record (.544), the second best ... second best ... percentage in Mets history, behind only Davey Johnson. That alone should speak volumes.

I hope the naysayers give him a little more consideration the next time around.

[PVNICK]

Yeah but Milla Gil Hodges has a valid reason for not managing longer, Willie, as much as I was on his side at the time, less so.

[Joe Rigatoni]

Mets Hall Of Fame inductions shouldn't be given out like M&Ms.There's no way that Willie Randolph's body of work as Mets manager should be considered Hall Of Fame worthy.That's the bottom line.

[milladrive]

Yeah but Milla Gil Hodges has a valid reason for not managing longer, Willie, as much as I was on his side at the time, less so.

Good point.

Mets Hall Of Fame inductions shouldn't be given out like M&Ms.There's no way that Willie Randolph's body of work as Mets manager should be considered Hall Of Fame worthy.That's the bottom line.

And you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.

I also don't think anyone in this project handed out OMHOF inductions "like M&Ms." Everyone who's in there -- and there are many --deserved their induction. I happen to think, as manager, Randolph deserves it. That's MY humble opinion.

[Joe Rigatoni]

Good point.



And you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.

I also don't think anyone in this project handed out OMHOF inductions "like M&Ms." Everyone who's in there -- and there are many --deserved their induction. I happen to think, as manager, Randolph deserves it. That's MY humble opinion.

I like the passion.You might not be bored for the next six months after all.(lol).

[Cowtipper]

No one was elected. Unless there are any objections, this will be the final election for managers this year.

[Strawman]

Milla's argument has convinced me completely - I was a doubter.

Willie Randolph deserves to be in, and recent Mets performance merely burnishes his reputation as a top 5 Mets manager.

But how come the poll is closed already??!!