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Our Mets Hall of Fame - the 11th Executives Election

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  • Our Mets Hall of Fame - the 11th Executives Election

    Feel free to list other prominent executives that you think should be considered, so that I can add them to the ballot. The rules for this election are the same as those for the players elections. For the latest player election, see here: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...me-election-60

    New executives:

    Paul Asencio
    Leigh Castergine
    David Cohen
    Paul Danforth
    Arthur Friedman
    Steve Greenberg
    David Howard
    Bill Ianniciello
    Robert Kasdon
    David Katz
    Leonard Labita
    Mike Landeen
    Craig Marino
    Laureen Matthews
    Pat McGovern
    David Newman
    Tom Osterman
    Mark Peskin
    Mike Ryan
    Karl Smolarz
    Stuart Sucherman
    Tommy Tanous
    Marvin Tepper
    Richard Wilpon

    Code:
    Holdovers:
    
    Executive                Percentage     High %          Years on ballot
    
    Nelson Burbrink          25.00          25.00               9
    Bob Mandt              25.00              25.00              1
    Joe McDonald             50.00          66.67               10
    Omar Minaya              25.00          40.00               10
    Arthur Richman           50.00          66.67               7
    Bob Scheffing            50.00          50.00               10
    Fred Wilpon              50.00          50.00               9
    
    Holdovers dropped: 
    
    Bill Bergesch...lack of support
    Lorinda De Roulet...lack of support
    Pete Gebrian...lack of support
    Lou Gorman...lack of support
    G. Herbert Walker...lack of support
    
    Last year of eligibility:
    
    None
    Code:
    Returnees:
    
    There are some executives who dropped off the ballot previously that worked for the Mets in 2010 or 2011. These executives are returning to the ballot because these seasons may have changed your opinion on them in terms of Hall of Fame worthiness. Rules are slightly different for these individuals. 
    
    Different rules:
    
    1) They can appear on a maximum of five ballots, including this one, or until their 15th year of eligibility.
    2) They must receive at least 10% of the electorate's support each year to remain on the ballot.
    3) If they have already reached their 15th year of eligibility or have reached then dropped out of the Veteran's Committee, they can appear on no more than three ballots, including this one. 
    
    List of Returnees:
    
    Sandy Alderson
    Paul Depodesta
    Saul Katz
    J.P. Ricciardi
    John Ricco
    Jeff Wilpon
    Adam Wogan
    23
    Paul Asencio
    0.00%
    0
    Sandy Alderson
    4.35%
    1
    Nelson Burbrink
    13.04%
    3
    Leigh Castergine
    0.00%
    0
    David Cohen
    0.00%
    0
    Paul Danforth
    0.00%
    0
    Paul Depodesta
    0.00%
    0
    Arthur Friedman
    0.00%
    0
    Steve Greenberg
    0.00%
    0
    David Howard
    0.00%
    0
    Bill Ianniciello
    0.00%
    0
    Robert Kasdon
    0.00%
    0
    David Katz
    0.00%
    0
    Saul Katz
    0.00%
    0
    Leonard Labita
    0.00%
    0
    Mike Landeen
    0.00%
    0
    Bob Mandt
    8.70%
    2
    Craig Marino
    0.00%
    0
    Laureen Matthews
    0.00%
    0
    Joe McDonald
    21.74%
    5
    Pat McGovern
    0.00%
    0
    Omar Minaya
    8.70%
    2
    David Newman
    0.00%
    0
    Tom Osterman
    0.00%
    0
    Mark Peskin
    0.00%
    0
    J.P. Ricciardi
    0.00%
    0
    John Ricco
    0.00%
    0
    Arthur Richman
    21.74%
    5
    Mike Ryan
    0.00%
    0
    Bob Scheffing
    13.04%
    3
    Karl Smolarz
    0.00%
    0
    Stuart Sucherman
    0.00%
    0
    Tommy Tanous
    0.00%
    0
    Marvin Tepper
    0.00%
    0
    Richard Wilpon
    0.00%
    0
    Jeff Wilpon
    0.00%
    0
    Fred Wilpon
    8.70%
    2
    Adam Wogan
    0.00%
    0
    None of the above.
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by Cowtipper; 12-01-2012, 04:40 PM.

  • #2
    I went with Nelson Burbrink, Joe McDonald and Arthur Richman. Burbrink signed Tom Seaver, Joe McDonald was instrumental in drafting and signing some of the Mets' core 1986 players and Arthur Richman was with the Mets for a very long time, from the beginning to the 1980s. serving multiple useful roles.

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    • #3
      I'd like to get a couple more votes if possible.

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      • #4
        I can go with Arthur Richman. McDonald, if I understand correctly was actually an exec thru the 70s. You might be thinking of someone else with a similar last name whose name I cannot recall at the moment but might have been GM post-Cashman.

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        • #5
          Ahhh, Joe McIlvaine. He was active with the Mets in the mid-1990s.

          McDonald, for his part, oversaw the drafting of Wally Backman and Mookie Wilson. Hmm...not as illustrious a list as I thought it was.

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          • #6
            Burbrink, McDonald, Richman, Mandt, Scheffing, Wilpon (F) and Minaya.

            All major impact or longevity/Mets culture.
            Cleon Jones catches a deep fly ball in F. Scott Fitzgerald's Valley of the Ashes, and a second-grader smiles in front of the black and white television.

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            • #7
              I'm actually pretty surprised--we elected Arthur Richman and Joe McDonald.

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              • #8
                Especially McDonald who wa sprobaly dead by the time the '80s Mets came to be.

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                • #9
                  Bing Devine and Whitey Herzog?
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                  Pushing on the doors of life marked "pull."
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
                    Especially McDonald who wa sprobaly dead by the time the '80s Mets came to be.
                    I think he's still alive, actually.
                    Cleon Jones catches a deep fly ball in F. Scott Fitzgerald's Valley of the Ashes, and a second-grader smiles in front of the black and white television.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Strawman View Post
                      I think he's still alive, actually.
                      Wow. He was from the 70s.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
                        Wow. He was from the 70s.
                        Hey, so am I!
                        Cleon Jones catches a deep fly ball in F. Scott Fitzgerald's Valley of the Ashes, and a second-grader smiles in front of the black and white television.

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                        • #13
                          I am too but I wasn't a grown man. Then again Ralph Kiner is still with us.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
                            Especially McDonald who wa sprobaly dead by the time the '80s Mets came to be.
                            Joe McDonald is alive and well.Some friends of mine and I met him in 2009 at the hotel as he was at the 1969 Mets 40 year
                            reunion at Citi Field.He was very nice and very enjoyable to talk to as he signed autographs and shook hands and showed us
                            his 1969 World Series ring.In 1969 he was the Mets Director Of Minor League Operations.He was the Mets General Manager
                            from 1975 to 1980 before he was replaced by Frank Cashen.He was actually the Cardinals General Manager in 1983 who
                            traded Keith Hernandez to the Mets for Neil Allen and Rick Ownbey.That move alone should get him into the Mets Hall Of Fame.He is now 83 years old.
                            "You don't give up any runs,we'll guarantee you
                            at least a tie." ~ Grote to Koosman

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                            • #15
                              That's the problem with being a kid. Everyone seemed ancient so a 40 something year old guy is assumed to be grandfather aged.

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