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  • Greatest Phillies Player Poll 8

    Round 7 of our poll ended up with Chuck Klein being named the 7th greatest Phillie of all-time. We now move on to #8. The poll will be open for four days.

    Remember, you are voting based on the player's performance as a Phillie only.
    12
    Bobby Abreu (1998-2006)
    0.00%
    0
    Dick Allen (1963-1969, 1975-1976)
    16.67%
    2
    Larry Bowa (1970-1981)
    0.00%
    0
    Jim Bunning (1964-1968, 1970-71)
    0.00%
    0
    Johnny Callison (1960-1969)
    0.00%
    0
    Jack Clements (1884-1897)
    0.00%
    0
    Gavvy Cravath (1912-1920)
    0.00%
    0
    Del Ennis (1946-1956)
    16.67%
    2
    Charlie Ferguson (1884-1887)
    0.00%
    0
    Billy Hamilton (1890-1895)
    0.00%
    0
    Ryan Howard (2004-present)
    0.00%
    0
    Nap Lajoie (1896-1900)
    0.00%
    0
    Greg Luzinski (1970-1980)
    8.33%
    1
    Sherry Magee (1904-1914)
    25.00%
    3
    Tug McGraw (1975-1984)
    0.00%
    0
    Jimmy Rollins (2000-present)
    16.67%
    2
    Curt Schilling (1992-2000)
    16.67%
    2
    Chris Short (1959-1972)
    0.00%
    0
    Curt Simmons (1947-1960)
    0.00%
    0
    Sam Thompson (1889-1898)
    0.00%
    0
    Other (please specify)
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.


  • #2
    Our all-time Phillies player list now stands at:

    1) Mike Schmidt (3B, 1972-1989)
    2) Grover Cleveland Alexander (SP, 1911-1917, 1930)
    3) Steve Carlton (SP, 1972-1986)
    4) Robin Roberts (SP, 1948-1961)
    5) Richie Ashburn (OF, 1948-1959)
    6) Ed Delahanty (INF-OF, 1888-1889, 1891-1901)
    7) Chuck Klein (OF, 1928-1933, 1936-1939, 1940-1944)
    8) ??? (vote today!)

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    • #3
      Well, I hope some others out there have some love for Del Ennis besides me. He WAS the Phillies offense for a decade (1946-1956).

      Seems like an average Ennis year was about .285-.295, 25-30 home runs, 90-110 RBI's. This on teams where the second-best offensive source might be 15-20 home runs, 75 RBI's.

      Richie Ashburn got on base a lot and scored a decent number of runs. Wanna bet that about half of Richie's runs scored were the result of Del Ennis driving him in?

      About the only other fairly consistent run producers on the Phils during that period were Andy Seminick / Stan Lopata, and Willie "Puddin' Head" Jones, but none of them at anywhere near the consistent level that Ennis produced.

      Let's see some love for Del Ennis, people!

      Then, after we place Del in this "Phillies HOF," my next votes will go for Chris Short and Curt Simmons.......
      Last edited by THE OX; 12-02-2007, 05:26 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by THE OX View Post
        Well, I hope some others out there have some love for Del Ennis besides me. He WAS the Phillies offense for a decade (1946-1956).

        Seems like an average Ennis year was about .285-.295, 25-30 home runs, 90-110 RBI's. This on teams where the second-best offensive source might be 15-20 home runs, 75 RBI's.

        Richie Ashburn got on base a lot and scored a decent number of runs. Wanna bet that about half of Richie's runs scored were the result of Del Ennis driving him in?

        About the only other fairly consistent run producers on the Phils during that period were Andy Seminick / Stan Lopata, and Willie "Puddin' Head" Jones, but none of them at anywhere near the consistent level that Ennis produced.

        Let's see some love for Del Ennis, people!

        Then, after we place Del in this "Phillies HOF," my next votes will go for Chris Short and Curt Simmons.......
        And of course that would mean that half of Ennis's RBI was because Ashburn getting on base and scoring, right?
        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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        • #5
          Sherry Magee.
          Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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          • #6
            A nod to Del at # 8.

            Truely, the decisions don't get much easier at number 8 than at number 1. Factors making it difficult are the following: Do you take a player with lesser career numbers who spent a majority of their career with the Phillies over a player whith better credentials that might even include selection to the Hall Of Fame but spent only five to seven years with the Phils in a 20-year career, or vice versa.
            In the case of # 8, I went with a guy who had a great career as a Phillie and spent 80 percent of his career with the Phils as opposed to a Nap Lajoie or Jim Bunning who are HOFers, but spent a majority of their careers with other teams. Sam Thompson was an appealing candidate too, spending nearly his whole career in Philadelphia but his career is in such a distant past. Thompson's probably no lower than the # 10 all-time Phillie, however.

            At number 8, I went with the great post-World War Two star, Del Ennis. In his 11 years with the Phillies 1946-56, he was an RBI machine. He hit over .300 a couple of times, but more typically he hit about .285. He averaged roughly 24 home runs and 103 RBI per season, for his years with the Phillies. Unfortunately he only lasted three more years after his tenure with the Phils was over, and only one of those years was productive. Ennis was out of baseball by 1959, at age 34, being released by the Chicago White Sox midway through his 14th major league season. His flame burned brightly as a Phillie but not anywhere else. He had vision problems that hastened his retirement. If he could have maintained his Phillies pace for a few more years after being traded before the '57 season, a 400 home run, 1600 to 1700 RBI , Halll Of Fame career would not have been out of the question. As it was, Ennis had to settle for a spot on the Phillies Wall Of Fame and not a plaque in Cooperstown.

            -Phillies Fiend 55-

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            • #7
              I'm still undecided on this one myself. I like Magee, Cravath, Ennis, and Thompson. I think it's actually harder to pick at this point than it is during the first few rounds.

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              • #8
                I'm starting to lean towards Magee, even though I had previously championed Cravath over him. Still researching...

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                • #9
                  I went Magee.
                  Last edited by TheoBallgame; 12-06-2007, 02:01 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Magee squeeks it out for the #8 spot!

                    Round 9 will be posted later today.

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                    • #11
                      What's More Flawed ? - This Poll Or The Tastes Of Baseball Fever Voters

                      What's More Flawed? Our Membership and their tastes Or The Greatest Phillies Poll.
                      While Our members voted Sherry Magee to be the # 8 Phillie of all-time, it took Magee 25 elections to be voted to the Phillies Wall Of Fame. This is a sharp discrepancy, if there ever was one.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by philliesfiend55 View Post
                        What's More Flawed? Our Membership and their tastes Or The Greatest Phillies Poll.
                        While Our members voted Sherry Magee to be the # 8 Phillie of all-time, it took Magee 25 elections to be voted to the Phillies Wall Of Fame. This is a sharp discrepancy, if there ever was one.
                        Magee should have definitely been one of the first people to get voted to the Phillies Wall of Fame.

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