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  • Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
    Halladay, Lee, Hamels, mabybe Greinke. Wow! I would never doubt Amaro again if he pulled that off.
    IMO, that would not be a wise move for this team. Pitching isn't the problem and so much money and years are tied up in it, I just don't see that happening. I'm thinking more in the likes of Edwin Jackson or somebody like that.

    Greinke, IMO is also not a good fit on the east coast. He had anxiety issues in the past, and there's much more fan pressure along the corridor here than anywhere else. I don't see him going to any team this side of the Mississippi any time soon.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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    • Bob Nightengale‏@BNightengale

      Breaking: The #Phillies deal is done. They get third baseman Michael Young from #Texas

      Young also told #Phillies in negotiations that he did not want an extension #rangers


      Okay, so here's the financial hold-up. It came down to how much it would cost for him to drop his NTC. Ends up he get $1.2M to agree to trade.
      "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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      • Texas received RHPs Josh Lindblom (who the Phils acquired in the Victorino trade) and Lisalverto Bonilla. Bonilla posted a 1.55 ERA while striking out 64 over 46 1/3 innings between High- and Double-A last year.
        "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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        • Phillies fans have been saying for years that the team needed to get YOUNG(er), but I don't today's trade is what they had in mind.
          Last edited by philliesfiend55; 12-09-2012, 05:10 PM.

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          • lOOKS LIKE THERE COULD BE SOME SIGNIFICANT TURNOVER HEADING INTO NEXT SEASON.

            New Acquisitions since the end of the 2012 regular season.

            Humberto Quintero (C)
            Josh Fields (3B) ( Minor league contract).
            Ben Revere (OF)
            Ender Inciarte (OF)
            Michael Young (3B)
            Mike Adams (RP) (12/15/12)

            Minor Leaguers Added to 40 Man Roster
            Zach Collier (OF)
            Jon Pettibone (P)
            Ethan Martin (P)


            Won't Be Back in 2013

            Tyson Brummett (P)
            Nate Schierholtz (OF)
            Josh Lindblom (P)
            Vance Worley (P)
            sTEVEN lERUD (c)
            bRIAN sCHNEIDER (c)
            jUAN pIERRE (of)
            dAVID hERNDON (p)
            pETE oRR (inf)
            jOSE cONTRERAS (p)
            jASON pRIDIE (of)
            tY wIGGINTON (inf-of)

            Top Minor LeaguerS hEADING TO oTHER oRGANIZATIONSs
            Trevor May (P)
            Lialverto BonaillA (p)
            Last edited by philliesfiend55; 12-15-2012, 09:20 AM.

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            • Some crafty use of the Shift key there.
              "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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              • Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
                Some crafty use of the Shift key there.
                Crafty or CRAFTLESS? (If there is such a word).

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                • Phils Were Lookin' at Cabrera?

                  According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Phillies and Indians were discussing a trade...

                  CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Things move fast in the off-season. Just ask the Indians and Phillies.

                  Before the start of the winter meetings last week in Nashville, the two teams were talking about a trade that would have sent shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera to Philadelphia for right-hander Vance Worley and prospects.


                  The rest of the article can be found <<HERE>>.

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                  The idea was to put Cabrera at 3B. Asdrubal signed a two year extension back in April that pays him $16.5M thru 2014. After that, he can become a free agent. Here are his averages over the past two seasons:

                  .272 AVG / .778 OPS, (118 OPS+), 20 HR / 80 RBI / 13 SB

                  Very solid. I believe he's 26-27 years old and if he played well, could even be extended once again while also making Asche and/or Franco possible trade chips. Then again, if this deal did happen, CF would likely still be a hole as the Phils wouldn't have enough available for Revere.
                  "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                  • The Phillies supposedly (based on what i read on another fans website) have made a solid offer for Ichiro. This may force the Yankees to offer him a Two Year contract, not the current offer of One Year with a Vesting Option for a SECOND YEAR based ON FIRST YEAR PERFORMANCE. AT MINIMUM, THIS WOULD FORCE most teams' nemesis, the Yankees, to remain a bit older for two years,stalling any potential NYY youth movement, and they are already among the two or three oldest teams in the majors now).

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                    • Originally posted by philliesfiend55 View Post
                      The Phillies supposedly (based on what i read on another fans website) have made a solid offer for Ichiro. This may force the Yankees to offer him a Two Year contract, not the current offer of One Year with a Vesting Option for a SECOND YEAR based ON FIRST YEAR PERFORMANCE. AT MINIMUM, THIS WOULD FORCE most teams' nemesis, the Yankees, to remain a bit older for two years,stalling any potential NYY youth movement, and they are already among the two or three oldest teams in the majors now).
                      Rosenthal's been saying the deal for Ichiro is basically done in NY. It's anywhere from a one-year, a one-year with an option, or a two-year deal. The Yankees will also be (supposedly) signing a platoon-type RH hitting OFer because all three of their outfielders are LHed.
                      "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                      • Shin-Soo Choo: A Phillies Target a Year From Now?

                        I saw several articles about the feeler the Phillies put out about obtaining Asdrubal Cabrera but the Indian I really would have liked to see the Phillies pursue was Shin-Soo Choo who instead was traded to Cincinnati. However, with his contract expiring now with the Reds after 2013, he could still be a Phillie by 2014.
                        My mini-scouting report on Choo would include: Very good fundamentals defensively in the field. Can play Center or Right. One of the best Outfield throwing Arms now In the Majors. A solid offensive contributor capable of 20/75/.300 seasons. .290 lifetime hitter. Can bat leadoff, second or third. A relatively young 30. Has very good Work & Practice habits. There is a lot to like about him
                        Besides, obtaining Cabrera would have blocked Cody Asche's path to the majors. If Asche isn't ready to be a full-time starter by 2014, they can try to bring back Michael Young for a second year at a reduced rate or have both Young and Asche on the major league roster to split 3B duties to start 2014.
                        Last edited by philliesfiend55; 12-13-2012, 09:46 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by philliesfiend55 View Post
                          I would have liked to see the Phillies pursue Shin-Soo Choo, but with his contract expiring now with the Reds after 2013, he could still be a Phillie by 2014.
                          My mini-scouting report on Choo would include: Very good fundamentals defensively in the field. Can play Center or Right. One of the best Outfield throwing Arms now In the Majors. A solid offensive contributor capable of 20/75/.300 seasons. .290 lifetime hitter. Can bat leadoff, second or third. A relatively young 30. Has very good Work & Practice habits. There is a lot to like about him.
                          Yep. He's very solid. I'm not sure he can play CF all that well, but he'd fit nicely here in RF. His OB% is his most attractive asset offensively as he knows how to get on base. The Reds really made out getting him to replace Stubbs and their .254 OB% from their leadoff spot last year.

                          EDIT: As for getting him next year, good luck Ruben. Choo is a Boras client after all.
                          Last edited by Ben Grimm; 12-13-2012, 09:43 AM.
                          "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                          • Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
                            Rosenthal's been saying the deal for Ichiro is basically done in NY. It's anywhere from a one-year, a one-year with an option, or a two-year deal. The Yankees will also be (supposedly) signing a platoon-type RH hitting OFer because all three of their outfielders are LHed.
                            You can't platoon Ichiro. Besides,his numbers significantly improved after he was dealt to the Yankees. After joining the Yankees he started having multiple-hit games and started looking like the "Ichiro of old". He might just be another Jeter - one of those few age-defying players that continue to have big years long after the SABR-metrics say they should have been declining.

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                            • What kind of offer would you feel comfortable with the Phillies offering in dollars and years?
                              "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                              • Hamilton signed with the Halos for 5 years at $125M. Free agent pool is that much thinner now, and Cleveland is said to be pushing hard on Swisher to replace Choo. Cody Ross... I'm not a big fan.
                                "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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