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    Hey,
    i heard that in Sept. 1970 that the Pirates started 9 players who were
    all minorities. i am trying to construct the line-up

    RF Clemente
    C Sanguillen
    1B or LF Stargell
    P Dock Ellis

    missing
    SS
    CF
    2B Dave Cash?
    3B
    1B/LF

    any help would be appreciated.
    Brian

    ...still plays with cars

  • #2
    RE: 1970 Bucs

    I used to know this. My friend in Pittsburgh used to quiz me on this every time we went to 3 Rivers together. Let me see if I can recall.

    P - Dock Ellis
    C - Manny Sanguillen
    1B - Al Oliver
    2B - Dave Cash
    3B - Jose Pagan
    SS -
    LF - Willie Stargell
    CF - Gene Clines(?)
    RF - Roberto Clemente

    I am not sure about Clines, Pagan may have been at shortstop, and the other infielder I can't recall. That was the first time in major league history that all nine players in the starting lineup were black.
    Let's rid baseball of the pestilence of the DH now and forever!

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    • #3
      RE: 1970 Bucs

      >I used to know this. My friend in Pittsburgh used to quiz
      >me on this every time we went to 3 Rivers together. Let me
      >see if I can recall.
      >
      >P - Dock Ellis
      >C - Manny Sanguillen
      >1B - Al Oliver
      >2B - Dave Cash
      >3B - Jose Pagan
      >SS -
      >LF - Willie Stargell
      >CF - Gene Clines(?)
      >RF - Roberto Clemente
      >
      >I am not sure about Clines, Pagan may have been at
      >shortstop, and the other infielder I can't recall. That was
      >the first time in major league history that all nine players
      >in the starting lineup were black.

      After I wrote this question, I found a book in the library called
      "Out of Left Field" which answered this.
      Clines was in center, it listed Ca$h at 3B, and shortstop was
      Jackie Hernandez, not black but Latino.
      and as i recall Manny was from Panama.

      ...still plays with cars

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      • #4
        RE: 1970 Bucs

        There's a problem here. According to MacMillan, Cash did not play third base at all in 1970. He was at third for 24 games in 1971. I'm inclined to think that he was at second with Hernandez and Pagan at third and shortstop.
        Let's rid baseball of the pestilence of the DH now and forever!

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        • #5
          Pirates field field first all minority starting line up

          It was September 1. 1971 when Danny Murtaugh sent out this line up at Three Rivers Stadium:

          Rennie Stennett, 2B
          Gene Clines, CF
          Roberto Clemente, RF
          Willie Stargell, LF
          Manny Sanguillen, C
          Dave Cash, 3B
          Al Oliver, 1B
          Jackie Hernandez, SS
          Dock Ellis, P

          Pretty good line up if you have Oliver (over 2800 career hits) batting seventh. Bob Veale also pitched that day.

          The Pirates defeated the Philadelphia Phillies 10-7. We had 'em all the way!

          Though I suspect it will lose formatting the following is the box score for the game:

          Philadelphia Phillies ab r h rbi
          Stone rf 4 2 1 2
          Bowa ss 2 2 0 0
          McCarver c 4 1 1 0
          Johnson 1b 4 1 1 2
          Montanez cf 3 0 0 1
          Gamble lf 4 0 1 1
          Harmon 2b 4 0 1 0
          Vukovich 3b 3 1 0 0
          Fryman p 0 0 0 0
          Brandon p 2 0 1 0
          Selma p 1 0 1 0
          Lis ph 1 0 0 0
          Champion p 0 0 0 0
          Totals 32 7 7 6

          Pittsburgh Pirates ab r h rbi
          Stennett 2b 5 1 2 1
          Clines cf 5 2 2 0
          Clemente rf 4 2 2 2
          Stargell lf 3 1 2 2
          Sanguillen c 4 2 2 2
          Cash 3b 3 1 1 1
          Oliver 1b 4 0 2 1
          Hernandez ss 2 1 0 1
          Ellis p 1 0 0 0
          Moose p 0 0 0 0
          Veale p 0 0 0 0
          Walker p 2 0 0 0
          Totals 33 10 13 10

          Philadelphia 2 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 – 7 7 1
          Pittsburgh 5 3 1 0 0 1 0 0 x – 10 13 1

          Philadelphia Phillies IP H R ER BB SO
          Fryman 0.1 6 5 5 0 0
          Brandon L (6-6) 2.1 4 4 4 1 1
          Selma 4.1 3 1 1 2 3
          Champion 1.0 0 0 0 0 1
          Totals 8.0 13 10 10 3 5

          Pittsburgh Pirates IP H R ER BB SO
          Ellis 1.1 2 5 3 4 2
          Moose 1.1 3 1 1 0 1
          Veale 0.1 0 0 0 0 1
          Walker W (7-8) 6.0 2 1 1 3 1
          Totals 9.0 7 7 5 7 5

          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          E–McCarver (6), J Hernandez (15). DP–Pittsburgh 3. PB–Sanguillen (11). 2B–Pittsburgh Stargell (24,off Fryman); Oliver (24,off Fryman); Clines (11,off Selma). HR–Philadelphia Stone (2,2nd inning off Ellis 1 on, 1 out); Johnson (29,2nd inning off Moose 1 on, 2 out), Pittsburgh Sanguillen (6,2nd inning off Brandon 1 on, 2 out). SF–Montanez (10,off Walker); J Hernandez (3,off Brandon); Stargell (5,off Brandon). SH–Veale (1,off Brandon). SB–Clines (10,2nd base off Brandon/McCarver); Cash (13,2nd base off Selma/McCarver). CS–J Hernandez (2,2nd base by Selma/McCarver). WP–Selma (2). U–Stan Landes, Shag Crawford, Mel Steiner, Satch Davidson. T–2:44. A–11,278.
          "We had 'em all the way!"

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