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  • OT - Why so little Pro Basketball in Pittsburgh?

    any ideas? I'm not from PIT, so I dont know. Don't they like basketball up there in Western PA?

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...#defunct::none

  • #2
    Originally posted by Brownieand45sfan View Post
    any ideas? I'm not from PIT, so I dont know. Don't they like basketball up there in Western PA?

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...#defunct::none
    You would think Pittsburgh would have more pro basketball teams. I never knew Chicago didnt have a pro team from 1951-1966.

    They made a basketball movie in Pittsburgh too. The fish that saved Pittsburgh
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    • #3
      I didnt realize that about Chicago either. And they had 2 Football teams for most of that time. And 2 baseball teams for over a century now. (Three during 1913-15, if you count the Keeleys and the Whales). And an 'original 6' NHL team. Relatively speaking, not much 'basketball love' from the Chicagoans. Good thing Michael came in and 'shored' things up...

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      • #4
        Yeah Jordan deff sealed the deal for basketball in Chicago.

        It's funny how you mention Hockey's original 6 because I never realized Basketball really only has the Boston Celtics as an original team left. I suppose the Golden State Warriors were around but they started in a differant city. Unless I missed out on a team.

        Who are baseball's original teams? Do they start baseball in 1901 or 1876?.......sorry i gotta try to keep it baseball related somehow. I like this thread and I dont want it delelted.
        "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

        "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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        • #5
          When a sport starts is a different question from "How many Legacy teams are left?".

          Thats interesting about the Celtics.

          One side note about the STL Cardinals ... you see on T-shirts, caps, merchandise all over Cardinal Nation "Est. 1892". When the American Association was closed in 1891 the players were essentially dispersed and the only thing that came to the National League was the owner, Chris von Der Ahe, and the name, "Browns" (which was ditched after 6 years itself).

          And when it comes to continuity, don't forget that most of the AL teams did not actually start in 1901 but had continuity with the western League going back as far as the late 1880s. But the WL was a "minor" league, though in not quite the same way as a minor league today.

          Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
          Yeah Jordan deff sealed the deal for basketball in Chicago.

          It's funny how you mention Hockey's original 6 because I never realized Basketball really only has the Boston Celtics as an original team left. I suppose the Golden State Warriors were around but they started in a differant city. Unless I missed out on a team.

          Who are baseball's original teams? Do they start baseball in 1901 or 1876?.......sorry i gotta try to keep it baseball related somehow. I like this thread and I dont want it delelted.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Brownieand45sfan View Post
            any ideas? I'm not from PIT, so I dont know. Don't they like basketball up there in Western PA?

            http://www.basketball-reference.com/...#defunct::none
            In the simplest of terms, Pittsburgh is a fair-weather city. And another big reason pro hoops never gained a foothold in Pittsburgh is that no owner has been able to withstand the financial losses. The Pittsburgh Pipers led by HOF Connie Hawkins won the first ever ABA title in 1968, but due to the financial losses moved to Minnesota by 1970. Pittsburgh got another ABA team in the Condors, but they only lasted one or 2 years before folding. There have been attempts at CBA teams tried, but those fizzled out quickly as well. There hasn't been a serious effort to bring the NBA to Pittsburgh, and it's likely due to the millions in losses a potential owner would have to endure in the first few seasons before gaining a foothold in the city. And it's a shame too, Pitt hoops have sold out the Petersen Center for most of the time they've been there (2002) though there were a lot of "no-shows" this year with the Panthers having their worst season since 2001, of course the Steelers and Penguins have had many "no shows" when they have struggled, yet every seat is sold. It would take somebody with deep pockets, savvy marketing, and good basketball sense to make the NBA work in Pittsburgh. Unfortunately the only Pittsburgh resident who has all of those qualities moved to Dallas and led the team there to the NBA Title.
            LETS GO BUCS!!

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            • #7
              Keeping it baseball related: Honus Wagner played semi-pro (I think) basketball during the off season. Even had his own team, the "Hans Wagners".

              I thought college ball was big in that area?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post

                It's funny how you mention Hockey's original 6 because I never realized Basketball really only has the Boston Celtics as an original team left. I suppose the Golden State Warriors were around but they started in a differant city. Unless I missed out on a team.

                .
                The New York Knicks as well.

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