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"I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
Carl Yastrzemski
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Originally posted by west coast orange and blacknothin' wrong in my book with someone not prejudging, which is what interpret 63's post to mean."I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
Carl Yastrzemski
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I don't think i have to let you know what my feelings are on steroids. That does not make a difference. All that I am saying is that according to law, Bonds has not yet been tried and/or suspended for using steroids. There was a grand jury leak, but since then, I have heard nothing. And that grand jury leak sounds a lot like the CIA leak in the news. It is against the law.
But, my point was that Bonds has NOT been found guilty of using steroids, so I am holding a main opinion that he has not taken any steroid. I still have my doubts. All signs seemingly indicate that he took the roids. However, just like all over America, 53, you are innocent until proven guilty. I don't think there is anything wrong with teaching kids the foundation of the legal system in America.You know it!
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ah..what's the use. It just dawned on me, you're both Ginats fans.
Yeah, I know..what's that got to do with it?Last edited by runningshoes; 10-30-2005, 12:32 PM."I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
Carl Yastrzemski
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Originally posted by skeletorwhat does OJ have in common with Armstrong ? OJ is supposed to be a murderer....depending on what you think..Armstrong did roids..or said
the french..who are chomping at the bit, that an ' american ' has been
whumping euro butt on the tour, the past seven yrs...so to save face,
the froggies are suggesting that Armstrong did...something...
as for Bonds and whether or not..hard to say..the line is drawn by many fans..and the public...again, draw yer own conclusions....
Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis
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so, bonds is the master of the universe, and has it all worked out.
it is time, then, to put "if you do not like the system then change the system" into works.
the thing about sosa and pitchers and "other players" getting a free pass -- is this a call for action against these additional players? the ones who have been mighty vocal about bonds have not expressed the same outrage about players known to have used banned substances. this is possibly emotion overshadowing actual fact. or maybe it is simply that they have a disdain for bonds and the banned substance story is a convenient outlet.
whichever, johnny roulette has got it correct: hypocrisy.
i communicate with many people about the bonds/banned substances issue and have yet to come across anyone pretending that he does not see what is right in front of him. actually, most of them know more about the situation than most because they are willing to look at things factually rather than with emotion steering the way."you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradbury
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i do not understand why my words were quoted re "bonds supporters"; "grips of reality"; "denial, denial, denial". i began discussing the bonds thing with lots of people even before the federal grand jury convened in san francisco... as have a number of those with whom i speak about the issue."you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradbury
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if "pursue" must include tendering a k, then i can use "indictment" re this:
"His leaked testimony, the fact he wears #25 (yes, there's something to that), his physical appearance, his number increase at such a late age, his mistress' claims, his diversion attempts whenever questioned about it...
it all adds up.""you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradbury
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^^^ i have suspicions of literally hundreds of players. bonds is included in that group. perhaps you have missed some of my posts along the way.
bonds' physical appearance has nothing to do with my suspicions, though. nor does his "attitude". this would be heading in the wrong direction - like the "#25 theory".
you continue to use the wording: "you hide behind the 'nothing has been proven' shield". i do not know why.
i am not hiding. more importantly, your suggestion that one of our most basic tenants of law need not be applied to everyone (or is it just bonds?) is bad news, at best.
in the end, you will never change my mind. just accept this as fact.
my position even before the story broke in the chronicle is: "i do not know whether bonds used banned substances." and if my position does change it will be because of facts. not supposition. not innuendo. not what jersey number he happens to wear. facts."you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradbury
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Originally posted by west coast orange and blackmore importantly, your suggestion that one of our most basic tenants of law need not be applied to everyone (or is it just bonds?) is bad news, at best.
What did they call that, again? He was responsible for Nicole and Ron's deaths.
How could that be? He was aquitted.
Could they possibly have thought the blinds will now be pulled up and we'll let a light shine in?
In contrast to the criminal trial, wasn't the civil trial largely ignored by the media.
Maybe a few people need stop reading the newspaper for awhile.
You can all keep watching television; those guys couldn't coax monkeys to live in trees if thier lives depended on it.Last edited by runningshoes; 11-13-2005, 03:21 PM."I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
Carl Yastrzemski
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