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Who is the 'Greatest Giant' ever?
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greatest giant
no disrespect to willie mays, and i'm sure many will disagree with me here, but i voted for barry bonds.
once he passes babe ruth for career homeruns (if he does, and i hope he does), i think he might well be regarded as the greatest baseball player ever to live, aside from the fact that he has yet to win a world series or even contribute in the playoffs. (i realize that this statement is VERY controversial, and will likely get attacked, but i dont mind the abuse; in fact i'd like to defend this statement if anybody is interested....)
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RE: greatest giant
Rudy-
I am not a huge fan of Bonds, but I think you may well be right. I voted for Willie, but deep down I was really torn between Mays, Bonds and Mathewson. Pretty tough company when 500-HR guys like Ott and McCovey don't get much of a second thought and the Greatest Latin pitcher ever, Marichal, is also an innocent bystander in this one.
-FenwayJeff-
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RE: greatest giant
[updated:LAST EDITED ON Jun-27-02 AT 10:36 AM (EDT)]I went with Willie Mays, and I mean no disrespect to Bonds. At this point in his career he is probably ahead of the Say Hey Kid and will probably end up being rated ahead of him overall when all is said and done. However, this poll asks for the greatest Giant, which I interpret to mean that you have to take away Bonds's years with the Pirates. Two of the MVP years came with Pittsburgh. Figuring that in, Mays is the greatest Giant.
By the way - there are only two votes listed. I'm not sure if my vote was counted. I just went back and tried to vote again to be sure and it told me that I've already voted.
Let's rid baseball of the pestilence of the DH now and forever!
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RE: greatest giant
i thought about that too, about how barry played years in pittsburgh as well. but when i think of barry, i think of him as a giant, so i picked him for that reason.
when i play baseball, i wear an old school t-shirt labelled the "outfield of dreams" featuring barry bonds, bobby bonilla, and andy van slyke that are sketched (you know those ones with the bigger heads sketched on the shirt).
also, i recently added a little 57 on the back of the jersey in memory of DK.
dont know why i thought of sharing that here, though.
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Very easy call for me. Unlike many, I saw the vast majority of Mays' career (1958-1973). And I saw all of the legit part of Bonds' career--thru 1999, whether he started using in 1999 or not, because the stuff wasn't really affecting him that year; it was 2000 when the effects became blatant.
So, for me it comes down to Mays, 1951-1973, or Bonds, thru 1999. Very easy pick. As for Mel Ott, he got enormous help from the Polo Grounds, with 323 HR's at home and only 188 on the road, an outrageous difference. Mathewson, Hubbell and Marichal were tremendous pitchers, but no way could any pitcher be compared to Willie Mays.
Mays in a landslide, from where I sit.
BHN
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you gotta be kiddin me
bonds the greatest giant player ever? he couldn't carry mays' you-know-what. what a sad state of affairs. they should take 2/3 of his salary and give it to omar. at least he's got a heart. giant fans have got to be the most deluded in all of mlb. yes, he did hit 73 homers while juiced to the gills, but let's put that in perspective. brady anderson hit 50. brady freakin' anderson! giant fans think barry's a warrior and give him a standing o if he jogs after a fly ball and slides on the grass. sf wins a game after losing three and the chronicle runs a headline like "turning it around!". be serious. except for the pr department, this organization is not earning its pay. we're talking about a .500 team in the weakest division in baseball.
while you're at it, don't look now, but marichal will only be the greatest latin pitcher until pedro gets a few more years under his belt. look it up.
just had to vent. this team is unwatchable.
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Originally posted by joepasquariellobonds the greatest giant player ever? he couldn't carry mays' you-know-what. what a sad state of affairs. they should take 2/3 of his salary and give it to omar. at least he's got a heart. giant fans have got to be the most deluded in all of mlb. yes, he did hit 73 homers while juiced to the gills, but let's put that in perspective. brady anderson hit 50. brady freakin' anderson! giant fans think barry's a warrior and give him a standing o if he jogs after a fly ball and slides on the grass. sf wins a game after losing three and the chronicle runs a headline like "turning it around!". be serious. except for the pr department, this organization is not earning its pay. we're talking about a .500 team in the weakest division in baseball.
while you're at it, don't look now, but marichal will only be the greatest latin pitcher until pedro gets a few more years under his belt. look it up.
just had to vent. this team is unwatchable.
I don't know any real Giants fans that put Barry ahead of Willie. Heck Barry himself doesn't do that. As for heart, you try playing the game at a high level at age 42 with bone chips in your elbow, a bum knee, and bad ribs and the media breathing down your back. And while you are at it, try asking the Giants players how they feel about Barry being in the lineup. To a man they will tell you that they are far better off even with a less than 100% Barry in LF. Does that mean this team will go to the WS? Probably not. But why not wait until next year to judge Sabean as the team will turn over about half the roster.
As for Marichal, maybe Pedro's better, maybe not. But at least with Juan on the hill ya knew he was going to go 9 innings.And let me know the next time Pedro pitches a 16 inning shutout like Juan did.
“Well, I like to say I’m completely focused, right? I mean, the game’s on the line. It’s not like I’m thinking about what does barbecue Pop Chips and Cholula taste like. Because I already know that answer — it tastes friggin’ awesome!"--Brian Wilson
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