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    I think these are the keys to the 2013 season

    1) Pablo Sandoval, hopefully he is fully healed and can manage his weight. I would like to see him bear his 2009 (.330 25 HR) or 2011 (.315. 23 HR) numbers which funny as it may seem were MUCH better than his 2010 (.268 13 HR) or 2012 (.283, 12 HR) World champion season numbers. I would like to see him in the .295-.310 range with 22-27 HR

    2) Tim Lincecum - of course another 10-15, 5.18 season would be disastrous. I am not hoping for a Cy Young caliber year but something in the 14-16 win, 3.20-3.50 ERA would be a big improvement over 2012

    3) Brandon Belt - we need a breakout season from him in the next year or 2. As long as they stop the infield-outfield, starter-bench player, majors-minors yo-yo. I think a .280-.300 BA with 18 - 24 HR would be not too much to ask for.

    to a lesser degree - Vogelsong and Zito need good years and Cain and Bumgarner need to be Cain and Bumgarner.

    Please no more roster taking spot taking up guys with no production like Aubrey Huff etc.

    Steady years for Crawford and Scutaro. I hope Pagan can maintain a good season. I think Blanco can improve offensively ever so slightly. Pence needs to improve his BA and OB% and maintain his run driving in ability.

    Bench players need to contribute and fill in when necessary.

    Relief corp needs to world champion Giants caliber.

    Full seasons from Sandoval and Posey are very important.

    I think in 2012 spring training they made all the right decisions (catching situation, keeping Blanco, Arias and H. Sanchez, etc.). The additions of Scutaro and Pence were very beneficial.

    Let's keep it going!
    Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 02-13-2013, 08:14 PM.
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    http://www.sfgate.com/giants/shea/ar...ts-4266162.php
    1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
    2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
    3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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    • #3
      How Lincecum pitches in 2013 will go a long ways in determining if he is a Giant past 2013. I'm still a huge Brandon Belt fan. I still believe he'll be a Fred McGriff/Justin Mourneau type hitter, hopefully this year.
      Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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      • #4
        Buster Posey has a chance to become part of the Giants pantheon of all-time greats. Posey is pure joy to watch.
        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
          I think these are the keys to the 2013 season

          1) Pablo Sandoval, hopefully he is fully healed and can manage his weight. I would like to see him bear his 2009 (.330 25 HR) or 2011 (.315. 23 HR) numbers which funny as it may seem were MUCH better than his 2010 (.268 13 HR) or 2012 (.283, 12 HR) World champion season numbers. I would like to see him in the .295-.310 range with 22-27 HR

          2) Tim Lincecum - of course another 10-15, 5.18 season would be disastrous. I am not hoping for a Cy Young caliber year but something in the 14-16 win, 3.20-3.50 ERA would be a big improvement over 2012

          3) Brandon Belt - we need a breakout season from him in the next year or 2. As long as they stop the infield-outfield, starter-bench player, majors-minors yo-yo. I think a .280-.300 BA with 18 - 24 HR would be not too much to ask for.

          to a lesser degree - Vogelsong and Zito need good years and Cain and Bumgarner need to be Cain and Bumgarner.

          Please no more roster taking spot taking up guys with no production like Aubrey Huff etc.

          Steady years for Crawford and Scutaro. I hope Pagan can maintain a good season. I think Blanco can improve offensively ever so slightly. Pence needs to improve his BA and OB% and maintain his run driving in ability.

          Bench players need to contribute and fill in when necessary.

          Relief corp needs to world champion Giants caliber.

          Full seasons from Sandoval and Posey are very important.

          I think in 2013 spring training they made all the right decisions (catching situation, keeping Blanco, Arias and H. Sanchez, etc.). The additions of Scutaro and Pence were very beneficial.

          Let's keep it going!
          ZiPS projects:

          Pandoval: .338/.467 125 OPS+, 4.1 WAR
          Belt: .359/.429 121 OPS+ 2.7 WAR
          Scutaro: .316/.360 91 OPS+ 1.9 WAR
          Crawford: .292/.340 78 OPS+ 1.7 WAR

          Lincecum: 189 IP, 3.67 ERA, 3.53 FIP (about 6% better than league average) and 2.2 WAR


          Using the projected starting lineups on ESPN.COM (not the right way to do this at all), the Giants project to 43 WAR while the Dodgers project to 42 WAR.

          My (very rough) projections have the Giants at 92 wins with the DBacks at 88 wins and the Dodgers at 87 wins.

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          • #6
            If Sandoval is healthy for the entire season his OBP/SLG will be much higher than .338/.467 IMO.
            Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
              If Sandoval is healthy for the entire season his OBP/SLG will be much higher than .338/.467 IMO.
              Well, one thing about ZiPS is that it attempts to factor in the likelihood of a player being healthy.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by filihok View Post
                Well, one thing about ZiPS is that it attempts to factor in the likelihood of a player being healthy.
                Sandoval's 2010/2012 seasons were interrupted by hip and hand injuries and a hamstring injury in 2012. The hand injuries are not chronic type injuries. The hamstring injury could possibly become chronic. I do not believe his overall stats from 2010/12 are indicative of Sandoval's true talent level. I believe his 2009/11 seasons are closer to Sandoval's true talent level. I believe Sandoval has MVP caliber ability if he can stay healthy. Whether he actually can is another matter.
                Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                  Sandoval's 2010/2012 seasons were interrupted by hip and hand injuries and a hamstring injury in 2012. The hand injuries are not chronic type injuries. The hamstring injury could possibly become chronic. I do not believe his overall stats from 2010/12 are indicative of Sandoval's true talent level. I believe his 2009/11 seasons are closer to Sandoval's true talent level. I believe Sandoval has MVP caliber ability if he can stay healthy. Whether he actually can is another matter.
                  Which is how ZiPS makes it's projections

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by filihok View Post
                    Which is how ZiPS makes it's projections
                    Fair enough. IF the Panda stays healthy I think he hits .320/.390/.575, 30 HR, 40 doubles, 190 hits.
                    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                    • #11
                      While I'd be over the moon if Belt hits .359, I think the odds of that happening are pretty small. Does he have the talent to do that? Absolutely. But 2013 is only his second full season, and I think he's still getting comfortable. IMO, that projection is more likely to happen in 2014 than this season.
                      “Well, I like to say I’m completely focused, right? I mean, the game’s on the line. It’s not like I’m thinking about what does barbecue Pop Chips and Cholula taste like. Because I already know that answer — it tastes friggin’ awesome!"--Brian Wilson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KHenry14 View Post
                        While I'd be over the moon if Belt hits .359, I think the odds of that happening are pretty small.
                        That's OBP not batting average

                        I'll rarely cite batting average as it is not a very telling statistic

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by filihok View Post
                          ZiPS projects:

                          Pandoval: .338/.467 125 OPS+, 4.1 WAR
                          Belt: .359/.429 121 OPS+ 2.7 WAR
                          Scutaro: .316/.360 91 OPS+ 1.9 WAR
                          Crawford: .292/.340 78 OPS+ 1.7 WAR

                          Lincecum: 189 IP, 3.67 ERA, 3.53 FIP (about 6% better than league average) and 2.2 WAR


                          Using the projected starting lineups on ESPN.COM (not the right way to do this at all), the Giants project to 43 WAR while the Dodgers project to 42 WAR.

                          My (very rough) projections have the Giants at 92 wins with the DBacks at 88 wins and the Dodgers at 87 wins.
                          Nothing like having the thread hijacked into a numbers projected stat thread

                          Sheesh
                          1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                          2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                          3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                          • #14
                            Pitchers and catchers report today! Woohoo! :hyper:
                            Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                            • #15
                              Wonder when Villalona will report? :innocent:
                              “Well, I like to say I’m completely focused, right? I mean, the game’s on the line. It’s not like I’m thinking about what does barbecue Pop Chips and Cholula taste like. Because I already know that answer — it tastes friggin’ awesome!"--Brian Wilson

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