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    Well, that was not an ideal way to start the season.
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  • #2
    I think the division is super tough. Not a lot of free wins.

    fg:
    Cubs 87
    Cards 85
    Brewers 82
    Reds 80
    Pirates 78

    Pecota:
    Cards 86
    brewers 85
    Reds 80
    Cubs 79
    Pirates 79

    Pythagorean luck can go 6-7 wins in either direction so about anyone could win it.
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    • #3
      Winning at least 3 vs. the Dodgers would certainly be a pleasant surprise. Thank gosh we get to hide AW this series and avoid Kershaw.
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      • #4
        There it is! Taking 40 kids to the game tomorrow.
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        • #5
          The bad cubs start makes the division even more interesting. The cubs are 3-4 wins more talented than the cards and brewers but they are also 4 games back now.

          this means the projections say the cubs, brewers and cards are now all projected to finish the season with about the same record. This likely won't play out like this but still at least in theory this is probably becoming a quite tight race.

          I wonder if one of the 3 teams will sign one of keuchel or Kimbrel now. Neither team can afford to give away any more ground and signing one of them could give a team a slight advantage. I wonder how much down the demands of the two free agents are by now.
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          • #6
            btw does anyone know why pham was traded for essentially 3 fringe prospects? I understand he had a bad start but those guys they received are rated as 40 fv guys. 40 fv means projected future bench player. Now it is not unheard off that 40 fv guys get better but that is 18-19 year old guys and not 22-23 year old guys like the guys they got back.

            Did They just want to get rid of him?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by dominik View Post
              btw does anyone know why pham was traded for essentially 3 fringe prospects? I understand he had a bad start but those guys they received are rated as 40 fv guys. 40 fv means projected future bench player. Now it is not unheard off that 40 fv guys get better but that is 18-19 year old guys and not 22-23 year old guys like the guys they got back.

              Did They just want to get rid of him?
              I think they figured they already had too many 3-win OFer in the organization and it would be better to get prospects out of one than nothing.
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              • #8
                Paul dejong had a tremendous plate discipline improvement.

                went from 25% Ks and 7% walks (18% K--BB) to 16%and 12% (4% K-bb). I wonder how much of this will stick.

                this article on walks
                https://blogs.fangraphs.com/are-plat...outs-for-real/

                and mine on Ks
                https://community.fangraphs.com/are-...trikeout-rate/

                Are only cautiously optimistic but if he could keep like half of the gains on either side and goes 20%/10% the rest of the way that would be quite good already.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dominik View Post
                  Paul dejong had a tremendous plate discipline improvement.

                  went from 25% Ks and 7% walks (18% K--BB) to 16%and 12% (4% K-bb). I wonder how much of this will stick.

                  this article on walks
                  https://blogs.fangraphs.com/are-plat...outs-for-real/

                  and mine on Ks
                  https://community.fangraphs.com/are-...trikeout-rate/

                  Are only cautiously optimistic but if he could keep like half of the gains on either side and goes 20%/10% the rest of the way that would be quite good already.
                  One of the few bright spots so far.
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                  • #10
                    People get to caught-up in the here and now. People really have to look big-picture.

                    Thankfully, Carpenter, C.Martinez, Goldy, Fowler, and Miles will all still be on the team in 2021 and most of that group several years beyond that.

                    Having most of the next half-decade worth of money tied-up in injured and/or declining guys in their 30s is a brilliant organizational direction.
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                    • #11
                      Thank gosh for the Blues.
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                      • #12
                        Cardinals line up...

                        Martinez RF
                        Dejong SS
                        Goldschmidt 1B
                        Ozuna LF
                        Yadi C
                        Fowler CF
                        Carpenter 3B
                        Pitcher
                        Wong 2B

                        Gets your best hitter most at bats. Can sub defensively earlier if leading. Wong batting 9th gives the potential for baserunner for Martinez. Move Carp down. Hes a number 7 hitter at best.

                        Gotta change things up.

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                        • #13
                          I'm a bit disappointed by the offense. Jeff Albert was really hyped as a super modern data driven launch angle dude but power as eroded quite a bit, team is just 12th in ISO in the nl. They are solid in Ks and walks (5th and 6th) but not spectacular either so their overall bottom line is a mediocre 9th 91 team wRC+.

                          Now carp and goldy should improve some but it is still not looking great. Meanwhile Luke voit and Tommy Pham which they both traded away for very little are
                          Hitting a 135 and 139 wrc+ this year. I read an article somewhere that the trade result the last 3 years has been rather negative by war. This is not always easy because prospects are involved but they didn't really acquire many top prospects either albeit the cards have a knack for getting something out of those fringy prospects and might like them more than the prospect writers.

                          the pitching has been ok though albeit there are some injuries too and Reyes seems to not get back on track.
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                          • #14
                            See, Cards...THAT is when you give a manager/coach an extension after a partial seaaon. Not after a short run and then a flop in the end to miss the postseason.
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                            • #15
                              The Cardinals are giving rival organizations the sense that they’ll consider trading a young outfielder or even talented righty Carlos Martinez this summer, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. In particular, Rosenthal’s source cites Tyler O’Neill and Lane Thomas as potential outfield trade pieces for the Cards. The note comes in the course of a broader column on some key questions for the upcoming trade deadline.

                              https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...-martinez.html
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