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  • Originally posted by jtur88 View Post
    Why is it that when the Cards play the Reds, Hamilton never hits the ball out of the infield but is always on third base with nobody out, Chapman always strikes out the side, but the Reds can't beat anybody else?

    .
    Reds winning % vs. Cardinals? .429. in a useless sample size
    Reds winning% vs. everybody else? .426.

    Nothing to see here, folks.
    Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 09-12-2015, 11:53 AM.
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    • What is the Post-season depth chart going to look like. Tony LaMatheny would take 15 pitchers if he thought he could get away with it, but let's assume 12, with all those open dates.

      At first and OF, there are the conract players, Adams,Holliday, Heyward and Jay. How do you handle Reynolds, Moss, Piscotty, Grichuk, swelling the non-P roster to 12, a backup C (Cruz) now at 13. You're then forced to designate Carpenter as the only middle infielder, with no pinch runners at all. Or choose between Garcia and Kozma, and go with 11 pitchers. Of those 11, six will be starters (assuming Wainwright), plus a closer (Rosenthal) and only four more chairs in the bullpen. The essential Choate to walk a lefty, and only three slots left. Who do you keep?

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      • Originally posted by jtur88 View Post
        What is the Post-season depth chart going to look like. Tony LaMatheny would take 15 pitchers if he thought he could get away with it, but let's assume 12, with all those open dates.

        At first and OF, there are the conract players, Adams,Holliday, Heyward and Jay. How do you handle Reynolds, Moss, Piscotty, Grichuk, swelling the non-P roster to 12, a backup C (Cruz) now at 13. You're then forced to designate Carpenter as the only middle infielder, with no pinch runners at all. Or choose between Garcia and Kozma, and go with 11 pitchers. Of those 11, six will be starters (assuming Wainwright), plus a closer (Rosenthal) and only four more chairs in the bullpen. The essential Choate to walk a lefty, and only three slots left. Who do you keep?
        All depends on who is healthy. I mean Peralta has sat 4/5 games. Who knows. I don't buy for a second the team is going to jeapordize his career to let Wainwright pitch. And MM has a huge boner for Kozma so who knows if Garcia plays. Nobody knows when Grich will throw or when Holliday can run or when Belisle will pitch.

        Your guess is as good as mine.

        Here is what i'd do If everybody is healthy:

        C: Molina/ Cruz
        1B: Adams
        2B: Wong
        SS: Peralta/Garcia
        3B: Carpenter/Reynolds
        LF: Holliday/Pham
        CF: Grichuk/ Bourjos
        RF: Heyward
        1B/LF: Piscotty

        Garcia, Lackey, Martinez, Wacha
        Rosie, Lynn, Siegrest, Belisle, Cichek, Maness, Lyons

        I am sure MM will find a way to get his boyfriends, Jay, Kozma, Harris, and Broxton in there. I'd rather find a way to keep somebody else up and not have to carry Reynolds at all, but Garcia can't cover the entire IF.
        Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 09-13-2015, 01:03 PM.
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        • You'd really rather have Bourjos than Jay on your roster? Rather have Pham than Moss? What about Wainwright (you said if everyone's healthy)? You know his boyfriend Choate is going to be there.

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          • Originally posted by jtur88 View Post
            You'd really rather have Bourjos than Jay on your roster? Rather have Pham than Moss? What about Wainwright (you said if everyone's healthy)? You know his boyfriend Choate is going to be there.
            Moss was an over site. The week-long o-fers and terrible D kinda make me forget he is on the team sometimes. But Pham is a very fast, very good defender who can hit a little. Moss is a lousy, slow fielder with a bum hip who might hit a dinger or two inbetween stretches of going 1/20. The bottom line is: I don't really want Jay, Bourjos, or Moss (or Reynolds or Kozma) on the roster.

            Well, I sorta excluded the guys I am assuming will not be healthy (Waino). There is no way he should pitch. If he will, then I'd replace him with Belisle or Cichek. I can't fathom Waino is actually going to pitch.

            And yes. I do not think Jay's wrist is healthy at all. Jay is a below average CF with no power and speed. With his bum wrist, his only value as a player is getting HBP in the bum. At least Bourjos will provide elite defense and speed. If Jay really, REALLY is healthy, we can talk. I know I am being a little inconsistent.
            Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 09-13-2015, 07:00 PM.
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            • I don't know if Matheny would have Martinez in the rotation over the big guy Lance Lynn. Lynn was his ace (other than Waino) at least once if not twice since Matheny took over the club. I would say Reynolds is an easy pick as the RH option at 1B/DH for October, assuming Adams is healthy to cover all the games his side of the plate will be needed. Moss is the extra lumbering all or nothing swinger, and unless guys get hurt I can't see him playing at all. Thanks for the help filling in, for sure, but it's time for the Cardinals to play again.

              I really hope Grichuk can play. Holliday is a MASH unit waiting to happen, so it is nice having Piscotty there too. Can Piscotty or Grichuk play 1B? Just in case, though I wouldn't want to see us throw away games in October by trying to get a bat in at 1B like the Rangers did in 2011 and 2010 (though that was RF, not 1B).
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              • Bourjos provides useless speed. He can't steal a base and is not a smart baserunner and can't even bunt in a sac situation, never mind for a hit. In fact, he can't play baseball at the big league level, all he has is hypothetical speed. They have pitchers who are more reliable pinch hitters. I was happy when they got him, because I thought he had potential. I no longer think that. Luckily, we got Grichuk, too.

                Obviously, if two or three of the returnees are not healthy enough, filling the depth chart will be a lot easier. But if they're all healthy, some very good players will be watching on TV.

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                • Originally posted by jtur88 View Post
                  Bourjos provides useless speed. He can't steal a base and is not a smart baserunner and can't even bunt in a sac situation, never mind for a hit. In fact, he can't play baseball at the big league level, all he has is hypothetical speed. They have pitchers who are more reliable pinch hitters. I was happy when they got him, because I thought he had potential. I no longer think that. Luckily, we got Grichuk, too.

                  Obviously, if two or three of the returnees are not healthy enough, filling the depth chart will be a lot easier. But if they're all healthy, some very good players will be watching on TV.
                  He still has a career SB% above league average (or close to it) with high volume. He makes it from 1st to home well and makes the extra base a lot. He has always posted very good baserunning runs created numbers. He has not been given an opportunity to start regularly and that has to be affecting him. Surprisingly, his career ISO is higher than Jay's. I mean the one year he was allowed to start he had 60 extra base hits. A career 92 OPS+ centerfielder with AMAZING defense and baserunning is a very valuable player. The guy we have seen the past two partial seasons is no the real guy when healthy and starting. The one year he started, he was an excellent baseball player. I really feel like when he gets a chance to play instead of getting jerked around every time something goes wrong, he will be very good.
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                  • Originally posted by jtur88 View Post
                    Bourjos provides useless speed. He can't steal a base and is not a smart baserunner and can't even bunt in a sac situation, never mind for a hit. In fact, he can't play baseball at the big league level, all he has is hypothetical speed. They have pitchers who are more reliable pinch hitters. I was happy when they got him, because I thought he had potential. I no longer think that. Luckily, we got Grichuk, too.

                    Obviously, if two or three of the returnees are not healthy enough, filling the depth chart will be a lot easier. But if they're all healthy, some very good players will be watching on TV.
                    well he definitely is an elite Defender, the angels moved trout to LF to Play him in Center. his bat is limited though and he is often hurt.
                    I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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                    • I love having a guy on our team like Peter Bourjos. A very talented defender in CF and speedy and smart on the bases. It is great being able to complain about having to carry a guy like that into October!

                      Aw, man. What are we going to do with all these talented outfielders?! Curses. I wish we only had 3 outfielders...

                      EDIT: When I typed that sarcastic part at the end, it struck me that we did go into the World Series one year with only 2 real outfielders -- the 1987 Red Cross Birds. We had our usual Vince Coleman and Willie McGee, but Curt Ford was the other guy in the pastureland. A very young Lance Johnson was on the bench and saw action as a pinch-runner, where he stole a base (we had 12 steals in 15 attempts that Series), and the only other real outfielder we had was John Morris. It is amazing that broken down team went 7 games that Series, and damn near won the thing, too.
                      Last edited by Herr28; 09-15-2015, 06:48 AM.
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                      • I don't think Mike Matheny understands that he can pinch hit with a good hitter and also replace him with a different player at his position.

                        September. Full bench. Jon Jay and Mark Reynolds get the highest leverage PAs in the game so far with Matt Holliday and Randal Grichuk on the bench.

                        Look, if these guys are not healthy, don't bring them up. Otherwise, MM is clueless. He could improve the offensive situation AND defense but failed on both regards.
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                        • Now Greg Garcia gets a PH opportunity with the winning run on base with Moss, Holliday, and Grich on the bench.

                          Either Mike Matheny is on drugs or Mo is for activating guys from the DL who can't even PH.
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                          • So lets get this straight.

                            Mike thought Randal was such a great hitter that he started him in CF without the ability to throw the ball (and actually flipped it to Heyward to get into the IF which cost the Cards a run). But is not a good enough offensive player to PH before Greg Garcia.

                            Got it.
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                            • Whew. Jayson Heyward and Carlos Martinez bail MM out!
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                              • Hopefully nothing goes haywire to spoil our attempt to sign Heyward after this season. He has exceeded my expectations already.
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