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  • 2006 Batting Order

    Here's my point of view on how the Nats will lineup in 2006.
    Will be edited following possible acquisitions:

    CF (?Ryan Church?) Juan Encarnancion?
    2B Jose Vidro
    RF Jose Guillen
    LF Alfonso Soriano
    1B Nick Johnson
    3B Ryan Zimmerman
    C Brian Schneider
    SS Cristian Guzman
    P (Livan Hernandez)

    Uncertain


    2B Jose Vidro- Not sure if All-Star second baseman will return. Knee problems, 7 million $, Alfonso Soriano and all...

    RF Ryan Church- Church will probably be used as trade bait.

    3B Jamey Caroll- Still one of the best U/M in the league may be also used as
    trade bait(no power whatsoever).

    Coming in?

    Jeromy Burnitz- Good fit as a Nat! Good bat, average defense.

    Juan Encarnancion- Nats reportedly close to signing, if so, Church will be traded.
    Last edited by wilkerson_rulz-06; 12-14-2005, 02:12 PM.
    Cristobal

  • #2
    Let's wait until Spring Training to discuss in depth this when we have our roster set.


    Anyway, I think Zimmerman should have a trial run at leadoff since he did hit around .400 in his short stint last season and he is kind of fast (just not aggressive enough to steal bases).
    Last edited by KingJ; 12-14-2005, 05:16 PM.
    The Q: Can the Cubs hold a 6-5 lead with 2 outs and nobody on in the 9th?

    The A: No

    ***********My Rant on Bud Selig***********
    Selig is like a stray pigeon. Pigeons are too self-absorbed to care about anyone else. They poo on people they don't like; they poo on people they don't even know. The only real difference between Selig and a pigeon is that Selig intends to bury our heritage, our traditions, and our culture,

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KingJ
      Let's wait until Spring Training to discuss in depth this when we have our roster set.


      Anyway, I think Zimmerman should have a trial run at leadoff since he did hit around .400 in his short stint last season and he is kind of fast (just not aggressive enough to steal bases).
      I was about to put him there but... one problemo:

      he's not THAT fast.
      He has the contact(maybe power) but not much speed.

      Ryan Zimmerman 2006 bavg-hr-rbi Projections:

      BAVG HR RBI
      .307 12 67
      Cristobal

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      • #4
        KingJ, do you think we will be able to project a player's stats accurately for the 06 season?
        Cristobal

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        • #5
          Originally posted by wilkerson_rulz
          Ryan Zimmerman 2006 bavg-hr-rbi Projections:

          BAVG HR RBI
          .307 12 67
          One thing is wrong with that projection: Zimmerman isn't a homerun hitter. He rarely hit them in the minors and I doubt that will improve.

          10 of Zimmerman's 23 hits in his 2005 run were doubles, so there is potential there.
          The Q: Can the Cubs hold a 6-5 lead with 2 outs and nobody on in the 9th?

          The A: No

          ***********My Rant on Bud Selig***********
          Selig is like a stray pigeon. Pigeons are too self-absorbed to care about anyone else. They poo on people they don't like; they poo on people they don't even know. The only real difference between Selig and a pigeon is that Selig intends to bury our heritage, our traditions, and our culture,

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          • #6
            Couple of things that come to mind immediately...

            Soriano might be the lead-off guy and he could also be playing 2B.

            Question. Can Vidro play SS? Reason. It's a whole lot easier to shop a $4M guy than $7M. Unless, of course, you're willing to let Vidro go for prospects and/or draft picks.

            If Zimmerman has limited power, it could be that Schneider will fill the 6-hole, and move Zim to 7.

            My possible line-up.

            Soriano - 2B
            Vidro/Guzman - SS
            Johnson - 1B
            Guillen - RF
            Church - CF
            Schneider - C
            Zimmerman - 3B
            ??? Fick - LF
            CBk Oldtimer #16 now #29

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Monarchs29
              Couple of things that come to mind immediately...

              Soriano might be the lead-off guy and he could also be playing 2B.

              Question. Can Vidro play SS? Reason. It's a whole lot easier to shop a $4M guy than $7M. Unless, of course, you're willing to let Vidro go for prospects and/or draft picks.

              If Zimmerman has limited power, it could be that Schneider will fill the 6-hole, and move Zim to 7.

              My possible line-up.

              Soriano - 2B
              Vidro/Guzman - SS
              Johnson - 1B
              Guillen - RF
              Church - CF
              Schneider - C
              Zimmerman - 3B
              ??? Fick - LF
              Vidro will not play SS, doesn't have the knees. No way Guzman and his contract will be benched. Church would be a better leadoff than Soriano. Soriano is to bat in the middle of the order(it was announced).
              We shouldn't move Zim to 7th because he can drive in runs(Schneider can also) I think Zim can get more hits than Schneider.
              Cristobal

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              • #8
                Monarchs29,

                No way Soriano will bat leadoff. Low OBP, high SLG players have no business there. It will waste his power and the low OBP will make him a bad table setter. I know Frank is smarter than that.

                My ideal lineup for this team:

                1.Nick Johnson, 1B
                2.Jose Vidro, 2B
                3.Jose Guillen, RF
                4.Alfonso Soriano, LF
                5.Ryan Church, CF
                6.Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
                7.Brian Schneider, C
                8.Cristian Guzman, SS

                Johnson may seem a little strange in the leadoff role, but the high OBP makes him a good fit, although it would waste some power. This team doesn't really have a true leadoff man.

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                • #9
                  Why doesn't anyone consider Church. He's quick and can swing the bat?
                  Cristobal

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wilkerson_rulz
                    Why doesn't anyone consider Church. He's quick and can swing the bat?
                    That would turn out like Corey Patterson is my fear as leadoff would be too much pressure for him. A low spot would give him a chance to show off his potential as a slugger and be a little more patient in his ABs like he was in the minors (62-51 K-BB ratio in AAA, 86-31 in majors).
                    The Q: Can the Cubs hold a 6-5 lead with 2 outs and nobody on in the 9th?

                    The A: No

                    ***********My Rant on Bud Selig***********
                    Selig is like a stray pigeon. Pigeons are too self-absorbed to care about anyone else. They poo on people they don't like; they poo on people they don't even know. The only real difference between Selig and a pigeon is that Selig intends to bury our heritage, our traditions, and our culture,

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 538280
                      Johnson may seem a little strange in the leadoff role, but the high OBP makes him a good fit, although it would waste some power. This team doesn't really have a true leadoff man.

                      If somebody could teach Guzman how to hit like St. Claire taught Carrasco how to pitch, we would be in business.
                      The Q: Can the Cubs hold a 6-5 lead with 2 outs and nobody on in the 9th?

                      The A: No

                      ***********My Rant on Bud Selig***********
                      Selig is like a stray pigeon. Pigeons are too self-absorbed to care about anyone else. They poo on people they don't like; they poo on people they don't even know. The only real difference between Selig and a pigeon is that Selig intends to bury our heritage, our traditions, and our culture,

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                      • #12
                        I don't think anyone can teach Guzman how to hit...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Big C
                          I don't think anyone can teach Guzman how to hit...
                          He hit over .300 in his final 100 or so ABs. No Batter Left Behind is trying to help him.
                          The Q: Can the Cubs hold a 6-5 lead with 2 outs and nobody on in the 9th?

                          The A: No

                          ***********My Rant on Bud Selig***********
                          Selig is like a stray pigeon. Pigeons are too self-absorbed to care about anyone else. They poo on people they don't like; they poo on people they don't even know. The only real difference between Selig and a pigeon is that Selig intends to bury our heritage, our traditions, and our culture,

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                          • #14
                            No true leadoff guy on this roster IS the problem.

                            #1 - CF - Probably Church
                            #2 - Johnson
                            #3 - Vidro (assuming he's healthy)
                            #4 - Soriano
                            #5 - Guillen
                            #6 - Schneider (break up righties)
                            #7 - Zimm
                            #8 - Suckman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GreenMountainMan
                              No true leadoff guy on this roster IS the problem.

                              #1 - CF - Probably Church
                              #2 - Johnson
                              #3 - Vidro (assuming he's healthy)
                              #4 - Soriano
                              #5 - Guillen
                              #6 - Schneider (break up righties)
                              #7 - Zimm
                              #8 - Suckman
                              Considering it's Frank Robinson, and his star 1st round pick, I seriously doubt he'll make Zimm bat 7h. Also Vidro will not bat third, I assume it'll be Guillen or Johnson. Vidro is good, but has less power than Guillen or Johnson.
                              Of course we have a leadoff man in Church, this guy is just great with the bat. Remember, he batted high over 300 before the dreaded all-star break.
                              Cristobal

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