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    No, this time I am not going into my hair-tearing paranoid
    rants about how MLB or the D.C. Council are going to screw things
    up and take the Nats away from us. I do not mean that the franchise
    is in jeopardy. But if what
    I read on another blog is true
    the name "Washington
    Nationals" may be jeopardized.

    Many D.C. fans have waited several years hoping that baseball
    would finally move the Expos here. One guy did more than wait.
    He either trademarked the name "Washington Nationals" or the
    domain of the same name. He's been selling generic T-shirts with
    this name for some time now. (I remember seeing these ads on
    either the Washington Times or the D.C. Examiner---can't remember
    which paper, though.) He's been engaged in a trademark infringement
    suit against the Nats, and according to the Beltway Guys, this guy won
    a judgement against the baseball team. If it stand, it could force the
    Nats to pay this guy a ransom for the rights to the name or change
    the name to something like "Senators" to avoid it. I hope this isn't
    true, because I have grown to like "Nationals" more and more, and I
    would hate to see them give up this name, especially for a predatory
    scumbag like this guy.

    Eddie Cunningham
    20 20

    Finally---something Nats and Birds fans can agree on!

  • #2
    I imagine there will be some sort of settlement. If the Nats were to change their name, his trademark would be worthless.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by eddiejc1
      No, this time I am not going into my hair-tearing paranoid
      rants about how MLB or the D.C. Council are going to screw things
      up and take the Nats away from us. I do not mean that the franchise
      is in jeopardy. But if what
      I read on another blog is true
      the name "Washington
      Nationals" may be jeopardized.

      Many D.C. fans have waited several years hoping that baseball
      would finally move the Expos here. One guy did more than wait.
      He either trademarked the name "Washington Nationals" or the
      domain of the same name. He's been selling generic T-shirts with
      this name for some time now. (I remember seeing these ads on
      either the Washington Times or the D.C. Examiner---can't remember
      which paper, though.) He's been engaged in a trademark infringement
      suit against the Nats, and according to the Beltway Guys, this guy won
      a judgement against the baseball team. If it stand, it could force the
      Nats to pay this guy a ransom for the rights to the name or change
      the name to something like "Senators" to avoid it. I hope this isn't
      true, because I have grown to like "Nationals" more and more, and I
      would hate to see them give up this name, especially for a predatory
      scumbag like this guy.

      Eddie Cunningham
      No comment. Too many painful things in there .
      Cristobal

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      • #4
        Apparently, this isn't a joke.

        Bygone Sports granted trademark to "Washington Nationals"

        Eddie Cunningham
        20 20

        Finally---something Nats and Birds fans can agree on!

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        • #5
          Founded in 2002 and is headquartered in Cincinnati, Ohio, Bygone's principal market strategy is to identify, resurrect and commercialize long-abandoned, historic sports team names, placing them on sportswear, apparel, and other merchandise, and to offer them for license in connection with other applications.
          And they did this two years before the Expos announced they were moving to Washington?

          This doesn't look good.
          "I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
          Carl Yastrzemski

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          • #6
            When the Expos moved here, and named the Nationals, there was other speculation that once MLB sold the team to an owner, the owner could likely change the uniforms and the name.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by runningshoes53
              And they did this two years before the Expos announced they were moving to Washington?
              It was speculation on their part and they may have come up a winner. It wasn't unusual for web addresses to be registered with various names regarding a D.C. team. The owner would squat on the address in hopes it would be bought out by MLB. The firm only markets one shirt and its pretty generic.
              Last edited by Bob Hannah; 02-17-2006, 10:34 AM.

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              • #8
                Although I was one of many (most?) Washington baseball fans hoping that the team would be called "Senators", I will be very disappointed if they have to change their name---even if they become "Senators" again.

                Eddie Cunningham
                20 20

                Finally---something Nats and Birds fans can agree on!

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                • #9
                  Founded in 2002 and is headquartered in Cincinnati, Ohio, Bygone's principal market strategy is to identify, resurrect and commercialize long-abandoned, historic sports team names, placing them on sportswear, apparel, and other merchandise, and to offer them for license in connection with other applications.
                  The company isn't as sneaky or shifty as first thought.

                  Frankly, it's their right to do what they are doing. Anyone has the right to buy the trademark after it expires, and that company did. The only one who would be to blame would be the former owner of the trademark: the Twins organization. They probably owned the trademark and let it lapse, unknowing that this would eventually be the outcome.

                  *Edit: the "Washington Senators" is not available either. It's owned by someone out in Ohio. The team may be forced to either pay off the company that owns the "Washington Nationals" name or change their name to something else entirely- DC Grays anyone?
                  Last edited by efin98; 02-19-2006, 04:42 PM.
                  Best posts ever:
                  Originally posted by nymdan
                  Too... much... math... head... hurts...
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                  • #10
                    It really wouldn't bother me so much if they changed the name Nationals. I have taken somewhat of a liking to the name but after only one year I don't think it would be a huge restart to change the name. I personally like the name Cannons. I belive there was (or maybe is) a long time minor league organization somewhere around Washington that had that name.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 538280
                      It really wouldn't bother me so much if they changed the name Nationals. I have taken somewhat of a liking to the name but after only one year I don't think it would be a huge restart to change the name. I personally like the name Cannons. I belive there was (or maybe is) a long time minor league organization somewhere around Washington that had that name.
                      The Potomac Cannons, now the Potomac Nationals, a Nationals single A affiliate, play in Woodbridge, about 25 miles south of D.C.

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                      • #12
                        They'll settle. MLB doesn't want to suffer the expense and embarassment of changing the name, and Bygone knows that if they did change the name, they'd (in the words of Judge Smalls) get nothing and like it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Peorgie T
                          They'll settle. MLB doesn't want to suffer the expense and embarassment of changing the name, and Bygone knows that if they did change the name, they'd (in the words of Judge Smalls) get nothing and like it.
                          That's true. Probably a decent priced liscensing fee and exclusive rights to seel Bygone's t-shirts alongside all other Nationals memorabelia.
                          Best posts ever:
                          Originally posted by nymdan
                          Too... much... math... head... hurts...
                          Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                          I understand, I lost all my marbles years ago

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by efin98
                            That's true. Probably a decent priced liscensing fee and exclusive rights to seel Bygone's t-shirts alongside all other Nationals memorabelia.
                            I don't think Bygone has any interest in selling t-shirts. They just want money from MLB.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by efin98
                              *Edit: the "Washington Senators" is not available either. It's owned by someone out in Ohio.
                              Are you sure about that? It was my understanding that the Rangers still owned the rights to the Senators name.
                              Go Rangers! :gt

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