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  • Shotgun Shuba
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    I think there is some logic to having the first game at home and getting off to a good start but I think that quickly falls apart if you don't win that game. I have often thought that having the three games straight in the Series sometimes works out well for the team supposedly at a disadvantage but if you don't take care of business then you are in trouble. My sources have told me that the Dodgers felt that they lost the '46 playoff because of the travel problems of losing that first game, having to come cross country and being exhausted. In 51' though it wouldn't have mattered. Sometimes logic should win out over a predetermined rule to never repeat a mistake of the past.
    I think you can talk about the decision from any angle and feel you are grounded in sound thought. The problem is that I really do think it would have made a huge difference in the outcome of the series.

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  • Imgran
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    Seeing as the game he chose to play at home was game 1, there is a certain logic to it. If you win Game 1 of a three game series both of the remaining games are elimination games for the other guy. Probablistically speaking if you want to guarantee one game of a three-game series game one is the way to go. Since you don't have that much of a disadvantage on the road (it's there, but road games are winnable) the strategic advantage of having your opponent back on his heels for the remainder of the series if it works out that way does count for something.

    Of course it all goes to crap if you lose game 1, but that's baseball.
    Last edited by Imgran; 02-26-2008, 06:06 PM.

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  • KCGHOST
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    Could you imagine a manager making that decision today?? ESPN would crucify him.

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  • musial6
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    I didn't blame Dressen then, and I certainly don't blame him now. He was merely following precedent. Recall the only previous major-league playoff--Dodgers vs. Cardinals in 1946. The Redbirds won the first game in St. Louis (beating Branca, who else?). Back in Ebbets Field, the Cards pummeled Brooklyn (a Dodger ninth-inning rally falling short). I'm sure what seemed smart in 1946 seemed equally smart in 1951.

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  • penncentralpete
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    Originally posted by Number 4 View Post
    From BaseballLibrary.com: "Surpringly, manager Charlie Dressen opted to play only the first game at home, rather than the last two. His reasoning was that if the Dodgers won their only home game, they would need to win only one out of two on the road." Doesn't make much sense as the winner of the tiebreaker must win two of the three games regardless of where they are played and it should be easier to win the two games at home.
    Like I said........Dressen "The Genius" ordered it so.

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  • Number 4
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    Originally posted by Shotgun Shuba View Post
    Can anybody give me a good explanation why in 1951 the Dodgers, who won the coin flip against the Giants, decided to give away home field advantage? I have been over the pros and cons many times and it still seems to be a very dumb thing to do. I would love to hear some other opinions.
    From BaseballLibrary.com: "Surpringly, manager Charlie Dressen opted to play only the first game at home, rather than the last two. His reasoning was that if the Dodgers won their only home game, they would need to win only one out of two on the road." Doesn't make much sense as the winner of the tiebreaker must win two of the three games regardless of where they are played and it should be easier to win the two games at home.

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  • penncentralpete
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    Originally posted by Shotgun Shuba View Post
    Can anybody give me a good explanation why in 1951 the Dodgers, who won the coin flip against the Giants, decided to give away home field advantage? I have been over the pros and cons many times and it still seems to be a very dumb thing to do. I would love to hear some other opinions.
    The "genius" Chuck Dressen ordered it.

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  • Shotgun Shuba
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    Botched Coin Flip in 51'

    Can anybody give me a good explanation why in 1951 the Dodgers, who won the coin flip against the Giants, decided to give away home field advantage? I have been over the pros and cons many times and it still seems to be a very dumb thing to do. I would love to hear some other opinions.

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