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  • Hello Jove23: It's really hard to tell anything concrete regarding the Brooklyn "B" and how it changed over the years. If you study the pictures in each Dodger yearbook, you'll find variances. MLB teams also sold an envelope of portrait pictures of the home team players at the ballpark. I own more than a few of these and can honestly say, the "B" was not consistent. It changed ever so slightly almost summer to summer. The biggest change was '55 and '56 when the diamond cutout disappeared (only to reappear in their final season of 1957).
    you can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
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    • Originally posted by penncentralpete View Post
      This is my Roman Pro cap from years ago. The blue color has faded to purplish, but the "B" is good:
      That's still not a 1940s "B". No reproduction caps I've seen get the 1940s "B" just right. I think the Cooperstown Ballcap Co. cap is best, but they don't get the 1940s "B" exactly right either.


      "The Fightin' Met With Two Heads" - Mike Tyson/Ray Knight!

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      • I think this is a fairly good picture of the B:

        http://images.google.com/hosted/life...dbc58edc2a8d68

        How hard would it be to make an exact reproduction of that?!?! I mean come on....

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        • Since dressen is wearing it, I'd say it's a good picture. the round circles inside the B, still different from the 40's, but an absolute buy if I ran across it.

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          • Originally posted by dodger dynamo View Post
            Since dressen is wearing it, I'd say it's a good picture. the round circles inside the B, still different from the 40's, but an absolute buy if I ran across it.
            I agree with you John. If I ran across Dressen's cap (from that photo) I would snap up as many as I could.
            you can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
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            • Alright ladies and gentlemen,

              I have posed this particular conundrum to people who (I believe) are experts or close to experts on this particular topic.

              Feel free to follow this thread:

              http://thefedoralounge.com/showthrea...483#post696483

              If you want to relay any information to the folks over there, feel free to ask me to pass it along to them.

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              • Here is my Dodgers hat made by American Needle, it is a little different then dressen's hat but I think it is close.
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                Lets support Gil Hodges for The Hall of Fame, a true Hall of Famer.

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                • If you stare at Dressen's "B", you will see a number.......38....check it out. BTW, Kramer, I have that very cap you posted. I wear it often, but it's not even close to being "real"................
                  you can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
                  http://brooklyndodgermemories.freeforums.org/

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                  • on Dressens cap, the right side of the stitching closest to the cut out (the part that has the tails and middle back end point) goes straight down and doesn't interfere or encroach on the circles. the tails also seem less arched and not as long. also In dressens cap the circles inside the B are true circles.
                    The thing is it's probably easier or costs just as much to do it right versus doing it wrong and even if it's a little more expensive, they'd sell so many more they'd wonder why they didn't do it right in the first place. You could do one like Dressens, one without the cut out and one like the 57 cap.
                    Yes, I'd like to have two or three of each!
                    Last edited by dodger dynamo; 12-15-2008, 05:51 PM.

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                    • Here's Dressen's B up close, also notice the top of the tail, it seems to curve then almost straighten out and doesn't go beyond the top of the top circle, while the bottom tail sits higher than the bottom of the B circle, (could be that it's just pitched to the right some on Dressens head) yet it too seems to straighten out (less noticeably though) on the bottom side, Neither finishes in a sharp point. The top tail is thicker. The bottom one also seems to trail out a little more (an optical illusion?) why can't the manufacturers look at this and get it right?. Also unlike the 40's caps I can now see some straightening on the left sides of the inner circles.
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                      Last edited by dodger dynamo; 12-15-2008, 12:34 AM.

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                      • DodgerDynamo: John....did you say Dressen's head comes to a sharp point? lol
                        you can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
                        http://brooklyndodgermemories.freeforums.org/

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                        • This is the 1923 American Needle Ol' Boy cap. The "B" looks pretty good here... More Dazzy Vance and Wilbert Robinson than Carl Furillo, though.
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                          "The Fightin' Met With Two Heads" - Mike Tyson/Ray Knight!

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                          • Originally posted by penncentralpete View Post
                            DodgerDynamo: John....did you say Dressen's head comes to a sharp point? lol
                            from what I recall there was a joke that went something like this,
                            A little homemade book was put together for charlie by the players
                            it was called {Baseball, by charlie Dressen} or something something like that
                            and on every page was written the letter "I" . As a manager I liked Dressen, (although Burt Shotton was my favorite), Leo was the first I remember, but he always seemed to want to be "whole show" or a key part of it, let's face it he wanted just the attention. Oh, I've strayed off topic, yea, Charlie could probably have signed his name with his head, but I love ya, Charlie and I'm still wit cha'

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                            • What's amazing to me is that the really OLD Brooklyn caps are MUCH more realistic than the "glory days" Dodgers (1941-1956) caps!!! Weird, that the companies can get Dodger caps "correct" for 1912, 1932, 1937..........but NOT after 1939 (blue with the white "B"). It boggles the mind.
                              you can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
                              http://brooklyndodgermemories.freeforums.org/

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                              • The Fedora Lounge people have pointed me toward ballcap.com to do a custom cap. I wonder if anyone else would like to help me approach these people and get it absolutely right for once and for all?

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