Is this a catcher's balk?
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Did Yogi "balk" in '55?
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Did Yogi "balk" in '55?
you can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
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catcher's balk
Actually, if Yogi left his catchers' box BEFORE the ball left the pitcher's hand, it is a balk (charged to the pitcher).you can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
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Originally posted by penncentralpete View PostActually, if Yogi left his catchers' box BEFORE the ball left the pitcher's hand, it is a balk (charged to the pitcher).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4RUQflfZ3L4&feature=related
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Originally posted by MATHA531 View PostOf course it was a balk....but they never call it.
i can totally hear Yogi saying something like "I always stayed behind the batters box, except when I jumped in front of it" haha
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Originally posted by willisraverchk77 View Postman, i never even knew a catcher could balk! that's why i love this forum, you learn something new everyday!
i can totally hear Yogi saying something like "I always stayed behind the batters box, except when I jumped in front of it" hahayou can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
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Originally posted by penncentralpete View Postmisnomer: "catcher's balk"......as even though he caused it, the balk is of course charged to the pitcher.
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Guess the pic is real, Pete? As a graphic designer, I wondered if perhaps someone used Photoshop to move Yogi forward. (Anymore they can place you or me on the grassy knoll in Dallas!) Just curious. Probably just my being too skeptical. Not trying to be argumentative or disrespect you in any way. Just throwing that out to see that you thought. If that's the real McCoy (and it probably is), then that's a really unique photo. Thanks for sharing it!
Todd
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Originally posted by donzblock View PostThe next time someone visits Yogi's museum, please tell him he balked. Yogi is an old man now. How much damage can he do? The Dodgers should have been given two runs: one on the balk and the other because Jackie was safe.you can take the Dodgers out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the DODGERS
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Originally posted by penncentralpete View PostActually, if Yogi left his catchers' box BEFORE the ball left the pitcher's hand, it is a balk (charged to the pitcher).
The catcher may leave the box to catch a pitch, EXCEPT during an intentional walk. However, he can't leave the box and interfere with the batter's swing or his ability to swing at the pitch.
Rule 7.07 applies to what Yogi did.
7.07 If, with a runner on third base and trying to score by means of a squeeze play or a steal, the catcher or any other fielder steps on, or in front of home base without possession of the ball, or touches the batter or his bat, the pitcher shall be charged with a balk, the batter shall be awarded first base on the interference and the ball is dead.
Yogi is not, "on or in front of home base", and he never touched the batter, or his bat.
People are confusing 7.07 with 4.03a.
4.03
(a) The catcher shall station himself directly back of the plate. He may leave his position at any time to catch a pitch or make a play except that when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stand with both feet within the lines of the catcher’s box until the ball leaves the pitcher’s hand.
PENALTY: Balk.Last edited by jbooth; 04-13-2008, 09:04 AM.
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Originally posted by shlevine42 View PostIt sure looks like he left the catcher's box early.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4RUQflfZ3L4&feature=related
It's rule 7.07, not 4.03a.
7.07 If, with a runner on third base and trying to score by means of a squeeze play or a steal, the catcher or any other fielder steps on, or in front of home base without possession of the ball, or touches the batter or his bat, the pitcher shall be charged with a balk, the batter shall be awarded first base on the interference and the ball is dead.
Yogi is not, "on or in front of home base", and he never touched the batter, or his bat. Part of the reason that Jackie was safe is due to the fact that Yogi had to stay behind the plate, and it made it hard to get the glove down in front of the plate. I don't know if Jackie should have been called out or not, but Yogi didn't violate any rules.
People are confusing 7.07 with 4.03a.
4.03
(a) The catcher shall station himself directly back of the plate. He may leave his position at any time to catch a pitch or make a play except that when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stand with both feet within the lines of the catcher’s box until the ball leaves the pitcher’s hand.
PENALTY: Balk.Last edited by jbooth; 04-13-2008, 08:59 AM.
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