Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Leo, Chuck, & ?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Leo, Chuck, & ?

    I don't know who Leo is pointing at only know he was with the Montreal Royals, any idea's?


  • #2
    Clay Hopper?

    Comment


    • #3
      Who is the guy in the middle, who appears to be out of it?

      Comment


      • #4
        Looks like this may be the exchanging of lineups at home plate prior to the annual exhibition game between the Dodgers and their Triple-A minor league affiliate.

        If so, the managers of the Montreal Royals during the period when Leo was the Dodgers' manager and Chuck Dressen was his coach (1939-46) were:

        1939-Burleigh Grimes
        1940-42-Clyde Sukeforth
        1943-Fresco Thompson
        1944-45-Bruno Betzel
        1946-Clay Hopper

        Information is from the Encyclopedia of Minor League Baseball, 2nd edition, published by Baseball America, Inc.

        Now all we need to do is figure out what year the photo was taken.
        WRD

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by Giantfanforever
          Looks like this may be the exchanging of lineups at home plate prior to the annual exhibition game between the Dodgers and their Triple-A minor league affiliate.

          If so, the managers of the Montreal Royals during the period when Leo was the Dodgers' manager and Chuck Dressen was his coach (1939-46) were:

          1939-Burleigh Grimes
          1940-42-Clyde Sukeforth
          1943-Fresco Thompson
          1944-45-Bruno Betzel
          1946-Clay Hopper

          Information is from the Encyclopedia of Minor League Baseball, 2nd edition, published by Baseball America, Inc.

          Now all we need to do is figure out what year the photo was taken.

          I remember seeing a photo of Clay Hopper years ago and if memory serves me thats not him in the photo, so i believe its Bruno Betzel, also 1944-45 i think was when Leo and Chuck were together. But don't bet the farm that im right.

          Comment


          • #6
            Well, it is NOT Fresco Thompson, and it doesn't really look at all like Clyde Sukeforth, so YOU may be right, Jackie.

            c.

            Comment


            • #7
              Definitely not Bruno Betzel. He was my grandfather and I was his batboy in 1952 when he managed the Syracuse Chiefs. I don't know who the guy in the Royals uniform is, but not Bruno.

              Comment


              • #8
                I think this may be Montreal native and Royals third baseman Roland Gladu. Roland was with the club in 1945 after getting his only taste of major-league action the previous year with the Boston Braves. He was their leading hitter that year. But then he jumped to Mexico in 1946, lured by Jorge Pasquel's money. Joining him was fellow Montrealer Jean-Pierre Roy, who briefly pitched for Brooklyn.

                Tell me what you think:

                http://quebec.sabr.org/media_gladu.htm

                http://quebec.sabr.org/media_1948sherbgladu.htm

                It's mainly the nose, but also the hair color and height (Gladu was 5'8").

                Comment


                • #9
                  I'd say it's him by a nose.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Gladu, who passed away in 1994, is an interesting character. He played in a professional league in England (!) that existed before World War II. There's a book about this league by a guy named Josh Chetwynd. He also played in Cuba. This Cuban card from the winter of 1945-46 shows that Roland was then in the Dodgers organization.

                    I wondered why he didn't get a look-see with the Dodgers. The war was still on in '45. My hunch was that the local hero was too popular a drawing card in Montreal.

                    So I looked at the newspapers, but the only clue I found was that Brooklyn did purchase Roland's contract (along with those of J-P Roy, John Corriden, and Claude Crocker) on September 25, 1945. But only the youth Crocker actually came south because the International League playoffs were going on.

                    When Roland jumped to Mexico, Branch Rickey said this (NY Times, 2/24/46):
                    "Gladu's case is different from Olmo and Roy. Gladu is not, nor will he be, a major league player. He is 32 years old and the offer he received was very tempting. I don't blame him for accpeting it."

                    That offer was $25,000 for three years!
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by VIBaseball; 08-25-2006, 06:19 PM.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Here's the front of that Felices candy card from Cuba:

                      http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=8831724913

                      Roland, according to "The Pride of Havana" book, was a popular player in Cuba. He batted .330 that season. Jean-Pierre Roy was also there.
                      Attached Files

                      Comment

                      Ad Widget

                      Collapse
                      Working...
                      X