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  • #31
    >>15. Bill Friel

    The only guy to play his entire major league career with *both* the Milwaukee Brewers and the St. Louis Browns.

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    • #32
      Why is Frank Donahoe in the picture? Is he just there to fill out the back row? Is he Jiggs Donahoe's 16-year old brother from back in Ohio? A "Frank" did not even get to the minors until 1905 with the Springfield Babes.
      Originally posted by RUKen View Post
      1902 St. Louis Browns formal photo (from the St. Louis Republic)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Brownieand45sfan View Post
        Why is Frank Donahoe in the picture? Is he just there to fill out the back row? Is he Jiggs Donahoe's 16-year old brother from back in Ohio? A "Frank" did not even get to the minors until 1905 with the Springfield Babes.
        That is Red Donahue, whose first name was Francis.

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        • #34
          Pre-season composite of the 1902 St. Louis Browns

          1902 AL St Louis composite.jpg

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          • #35
            1902 Browns (left to right) P Bill Reidy, C Billy Maloney, and OF Jesse Burkett

            1902 Reidy Maloney.jpg1902 Burkett.jpg

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            • #36
              1902 St. Louis fans

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              • #37
                1901 Milwaukee Brewers

                After the 1901 season, the franchise was shifted to St. Louis to become the Browns. Of the players in this team photograph, only Bill Reidy, Billy Maloney, and John Anderson played for the Browns in 1902. Three other players not pictured here also moved with the team.

                1901 AL Milwaukee.jpg

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                • #38
                  Bill Friel and Jiggs Donahue played as well. I wish they had kept Ned Garvin instead of Reidy. Garvin had a 2.09 ERA in 1902. they should've known he was hot stuff because he led the American League in strikeouts per nine innings in 1901.

                  If they had had Garvin, probably would've won pennant in 1902. Throwing off the loser stigma early might've changed franchise history.

                  in fact, it's not clear from the transactions section exactly how Garvin left the franchise for the White Sox
                  Last edited by Brownieand45sfan; 03-03-2013, 11:28 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Davy Jones was the other Brewer/Brown, and he went on to a successful career as an outfielder with the Orphans/Cubs and the Tigers.

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                    • #40
                      I wonder if there was any attempt to keep the memory of the 1901, Brewers alive in Milwaukee subsequent to their leaving. For example, reunions, etc. or did they just go down the memory hole like a 19th century team? No city was longer between major league franchises than Milwaukee: 52 years.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Brownieand45sfan View Post
                        I wonder if there was any attempt to keep the memory of the 1901, Brewers alive in Milwaukee subsequent to their leaving. For example, reunions, etc. or did they just go down the memory hole like a 19th century team? No city was longer between major league franchises than Milwaukee: 52 years.
                        I don't know. The franchise began as a minor league team in 1894 in the Western League. The Western League became the American League in 1900 and became a major league in 1901. The Brewers drew fewer than 2000 fans per game (7th in the league in attendance) and were then transferred. The franchise was then replaced with a new minor league team.

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                        • #42
                          Good point about Milwaukee's WL history. Reidy and Waldron, in particular, had some history with the WL Brewers/Creams. And future Brownie Rube Waddell played his first full professional season with the WL Brewers.
                          Originally posted by RUKen View Post
                          I don't know. The franchise began as a minor league team in 1894 in the Western League. The Western League became the American League in 1900 and became a major league in 1901. The Brewers drew fewer than 2000 fans per game (7th in the league in attendance) and were then transferred. The franchise was then replaced with a new minor league team.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Brownieand45sfan View Post
                            Bill Friel and Jiggs Donahue played as well. I wish they had kept Ned Garvin instead of Reidy. Garvin had a 2.09 ERA in 1902. they should've known he was hot stuff because he led the American League in strikeouts per nine innings in 1901.

                            If they had had Garvin, probably would've won pennant in 1902. Throwing off the loser stigma early might've changed franchise history.

                            in fact, it's not clear from the transactions section exactly how Garvin left the franchise for the White Sox
                            Looking at the Sporting News, from the Jan. 11, 1902 edition, Garvin was not listed among on the roster Jimmy McAleer planned to bring to St. Louis (although technically the move to St. Louis wasn't official yet). Later, there was a note of a possible Garvin trade to the White Sox for Joe Sugden, who will play for the Browns in 1902 (listed as a purchase in February according to baseball-reference.com). A quick search of later issues didn't turn up the exact transaction, but in the Feb. 8 edition Sugden is mentioned by McAleer as one of the team's catchers.

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                            • #44
                              So if Veeck had been able to move the Browns to Milwaukee in '53 before the Braves did

                              would have been a belated restoration of a franchise

                              I never realized that

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                              • #45
                                I've just come across another photo of Jiggs Donahue in the Chicago Daily News archive that is listed as being from 1904, but he is clearly wearing the coat worn by the Browns from 1902 through 1905. He played for St. Louis only in 1902, so that must be the correct date of the picture, and he appears to be wearing his left-handed catcher's mitt. The photo has been added to post #9 on page 1 of this thread.
                                Last edited by RUKen; 04-18-2013, 06:22 AM.

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